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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by Zeny on Mon May 24, 2010 6:04 pm

    muyo wrote:But Kanji isn't that hard once you start to get into it. I always looked for ways that the character looked like what it meant and that helped xD

    And my aunt, who is from South Korea, told me that Korean might actually be easier than Japanese and Chinese because they have something that's kind of like the English alphabet. They have these characters in their "alphabet" that they put together to make words, kind of like English does.
    I don't know any Korean though xD;;

    Written Korean is by far the easiest Asian language for foreigners to learn. As for spoken Korean, it'll give you some trouble, but if you already speak Chinese or Japanese it'll be a lot easier.

    At least, that's what I've picked up from listening to people on the train haha.

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by kisekixkoe on Wed May 26, 2010 6:03 am

    Zeny wrote:
    muyo wrote:But Kanji isn't that hard once you start to get into it. I always looked for ways that the character looked like what it meant and that helped xD

    And my aunt, who is from South Korea, told me that Korean might actually be easier than Japanese and Chinese because they have something that's kind of like the English alphabet. They have these characters in their "alphabet" that they put together to make words, kind of like English does.
    I don't know any Korean though xD;;

    Written Korean is by far the easiest Asian language for foreigners to learn. As for spoken Korean, it'll give you some trouble, but if you already speak Chinese or Japanese it'll be a lot easier.

    At least, that's what I've picked up from listening to people on the train haha.

    Yeah, Considering you only really need to know hangul, which is similar in functionality to english letters
    But then, the speaking, is the hard part.
    The double consonants, the ssilent consonants...T_T

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by Nanashi_Zokune on Wed May 26, 2010 7:05 am

    i would really love to learn a new language but with money restraints and lack of a job i can't afford it. i know some languages i learn probly would be useless to even know, but, one mustn't forget that learning new languages expands the mind and even helps organize it better or atleast that's how i perceive learning..

    i would like to one day travel the world so it would help me then i suppose ^^; and i do agree with zeny about the job part. it is a tie breaker. more often where i live if you know spanish you're golden.

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by PeppermintCereal on Wed May 26, 2010 7:22 am

    I've wanted to learn because of Vocaloid.

    I had Japanese class at school today Wink

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by Zeny on Wed May 26, 2010 10:12 am

    Nanashi_Zokune wrote:i would really love to learn a new language but with money restraints and lack of a job i can't afford it. i know some languages i learn probly would be useless to even know, but, one mustn't forget that learning new languages expands the mind and even helps organize it better or atleast that's how i perceive learning..

    i would like to one day travel the world so it would help me then i suppose ^^; and i do agree with zeny about the job part. it is a tie breaker. more often where i live if you know spanish you're golden.

    Aye, you are in Texas after all, which has one of the largest Hispanic population.

    Geography is also important when deciding which language to take. For example, if you live in Vancouver, Canada (AKA Hongcouver)then Chinese is a definite plus.

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by xLei on Wed May 26, 2010 11:22 am

    I actually want to learn GERMAN before Japanese (since most of my OCs tend to be Japanese anyways... OTL).

    I love learning new languages, so if that counts as a reason then that's my main reason.

    Japanese comes after German but German comes after French (I had two years of it in school).

    Yeah I'm learning... with a cracked Rosetta Stone ROFLMAO *SHOT*

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by 루키아(Rukia) on Wed May 26, 2010 12:23 pm

    I want to learn...but I don't have much time to(I'm dying of study in school)
    I just learing in school by second foreign language. but it is simple. like "cat is on the chair"

    so...I always use web translater!

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by Catarsis on Thu May 27, 2010 5:27 pm

    Honestly I'm not interested in learning Japanese, it isn't a language that is 'endangered'. Also, the kanjis look really complicated (although Japanese pronunciation it's like the easiest thing for a person that has Spanish as it's mother language).
    I'm going to take French classes soon because of my heritage...I know French isn't endangered either, but there's less people that speak French than people that speak Japanese.

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by moeloid on Thu May 27, 2010 6:52 pm

    vodKata wrote:Honestly I'm not interested in learning Japanese, it isn't a language that is 'endangered'. Also, the kanjis look really complicated (although Japanese pronunciation it's like the easiest thing for a person that has Spanish as it's mother language).
    I'm going to take French classes soon because of my heritage...I know French isn't endangered either, but there's less people that speak French than people that speak Japanese.


    True, true. I'm mostly French, but I know none at all......../shot

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by muyo on Thu May 27, 2010 6:54 pm

    Oh God, there are so many languages that I wanna learn too xD I also love learning new languages.
    I want to learn Japanese, yes, but I also wanna finish learning Chinese and I want to learn Korean, German, French, Italian, and Spanish. Maybe some others xDD

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by Catarsis on Thu May 27, 2010 6:56 pm

    @moeloid: That sounds crazy! XD well I have Mapuche (indigenous Chileans) blood too, so I suppose that I have to learn Mapudungun (Mapuche's language) too xD
    ISOLATE LANGUAGES ROX MY SOX >:3

    @muyo: If you want to learn Spanish I can help you with that Smile

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by Zeny on Thu May 27, 2010 7:18 pm

    vodKata wrote:
    I know French isn't endangered either, but there's less people that speak French than people that speak Japanese.

    This is false, I'm afraid. Collectively between native speakers and people who pick it up as a second language, the French language has around 256 million speakers in over 50 countries.

    http://www.tlfq.ulaval.ca/axl/francophonie/francophonie.htm

    Japanese has around 133 million speakers worldwide and is only predominant in Japan. While it's spoken in some parts of China, Taiwan, Korea and the United States, it's presence isn't as large as French.

    http://www2.ignatius.edu/faculty/turner/languages.htm


    The World's Most Widely Spoken Languages




    Thus, if you add the secondary speaker populations to the primary speaker populations, you get the following (and I believe more accurate) list:
    (number of speakers in parentheses)

    Mandarin Chinese (1.12 billion)
    English (480 million)
    Spanish (320 million)
    Russian (285 million)
    French (265 million)
    Hindi/Urdu (250 million)
    Arabic (221 million)
    Portuguese (188 million)
    Bengali (185 million)
    Japanese (133 million)
    German (109 million)

    Though, I can understand why you would want to learn French to preserve your roots so to speak. That's always important. At least, I think so.

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by Catarsis on Thu May 27, 2010 7:37 pm

    Zeny wrote:
    vodKata wrote:
    I know French isn't endangered either, but there's less people that speak French than people that speak Japanese.

    This is false, I'm afraid. Collectively between native speakers and people who pick it up as a second language, the French language has around 256 million speakers in over 50 countries.

    http://www.tlfq.ulaval.ca/axl/francophonie/francophonie.htm

    Japanese has around 133 million speakers worldwide and is only predominant in Japan. While it's spoken in some parts of China, Taiwan, Korea and the United States, it's presence isn't as large as French.

    http://www2.ignatius.edu/faculty/turner/languages.htm


    The World's Most Widely Spoken Languages




    Thus, if you add the secondary speaker populations to the primary speaker populations, you get the following (and I believe more accurate) list:
    (number of speakers in parentheses)

    Mandarin Chinese (1.12 billion)
    English (480 million)
    Spanish (320 million)
    Russian (285 million)
    French (265 million)
    Hindi/Urdu (250 million)
    Arabic (221 million)
    Portuguese (188 million)
    Bengali (185 million)
    Japanese (133 million)
    German (109 million)

    Though, I can understand why you would want to learn French to preserve your roots so to speak. That's always important. At least, I think so.

    Oh sorry I didn't knew that info xP...
    well, there's many people learning Japanese now...I prefer to preserve my roots of course! Wink

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by Zeny on Thu May 27, 2010 7:52 pm

    vodKata wrote:
    Oh sorry I didn't knew that info xP...
    well, there's many people learning Japanese now...I prefer to preserve my roots of course! Wink

    It's cool. I thought I'd show you that before Matthieu stumbled upon this thread, haha.

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by Aline on Thu May 27, 2010 8:23 pm

    Zeny wrote:

    The World's Most Widely Spoken Languages




    Thus, if you add the secondary speaker populations to the primary speaker populations, you get the following (and I believe more accurate) list:
    (number of speakers in parentheses)

    Mandarin Chinese (1.12 billion)
    English (480 million)
    Spanish (320 million)
    Russian (285 million)
    French (265 million)
    Hindi/Urdu (250 million)
    Arabic (221 million)
    Portuguese (188 million)
    Bengali (185 million)
    Japanese (133 million)
    German (109 million)

    Should I feel sad that most Portuguese speakers are actually Brazilians (and that very few people want to learn)? D:

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by Zeny on Thu May 27, 2010 9:40 pm

    Aline wrote:
    Should I feel sad that most Portuguese speakers are actually Brazilians (and that very few people want to learn)? D:

    Hmm, Portugal is smaller than Brazil, so I can see why most Portuguese speakers are Brazilian.

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by 산쇼씨 (Sansyo-ssi) on Thu May 27, 2010 10:42 pm

    Nnnngg
    I'm not like, trying hard to learn japanese, but I end up learning words and phrases from talking to people in the UTA-Vocaloid community. *u*;;

    It's not too hard for me to make sentences myself, but reading it's really difficult because of all the chinese characters. orz (Hanja Dictionary ftw)

    (Korean and Japanese grammar are really close, mainly sentence structure, but words and phrases are completely different... besides words that come from chinese.)


    Also, Korean is the simplest of the E. Asian languages to read, but it's harder than japanese phonetic-wise.

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by xLei on Fri May 28, 2010 8:59 am

    Spanish is my mother language :'D

    I want to learn Latin SO GOD DAMN BAD.

    But supposedly no one knows how to properly pronounce it because it's so ancient and not many speak it...

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by Catarsis on Fri May 28, 2010 9:11 am

    xLei wrote:Spanish is my mother language :'D

    I want to learn Latin SO GOD DAMN BAD.

    But supposedly no one knows how to properly pronounce it because it's so ancient and not many speak it...

    My friend is an exchange student in Germany now, and she told me that in school she's learning Latin :D she says that's pretty hard XD and the most weird thing is that Spanish actually comes from Latin XD lol
    Anyways, looks like an awesome language :>

    Oh btw, I would like to learn Russian too :D and maybe Portuguese for talking with Aline XD lol

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by xLei on Fri May 28, 2010 9:17 am

    vodKata wrote:
    xLei wrote:Spanish is my mother language :'D

    I want to learn Latin SO GOD DAMN BAD.

    But supposedly no one knows how to properly pronounce it because it's so ancient and not many speak it...

    My friend is an exchange student in Germany now, and she told me that in school she's learning Latin :D she says that's pretty hard XD and the most weird thing is that Spanish actually comes from Latin XD lol
    Anyways, looks like an awesome language :>

    Oh btw, I would like to learn Russian too :D and maybe Portuguese for talking with Aline XD lol

    OMFG RUSSIAN <333

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by Catarsis on Fri May 28, 2010 9:27 am

    xLei wrote:
    vodKata wrote:
    xLei wrote:Spanish is my mother language :'D

    I want to learn Latin SO GOD DAMN BAD.

    But supposedly no one knows how to properly pronounce it because it's so ancient and not many speak it...

    My friend is an exchange student in Germany now, and she told me that in school she's learning Latin :D she says that's pretty hard XD and the most weird thing is that Spanish actually comes from Latin XD lol
    Anyways, looks like an awesome language :>

    Oh btw, I would like to learn Russian too :D and maybe Portuguese for talking with Aline XD lol

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    I find Russian accents VERY sexy hurhur

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    But NOTHING IS BETTER THAN CHILEAN ACCENT!!! WEÓN~
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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by Nanashi_Zokune on Fri May 28, 2010 1:14 pm

    xLei wrote:I actually want to learn GERMAN before Japanese
    same XD

    muyo wrote:Oh God, there are so many languages that I wanna learn too xD I also love learning new languages.
    I want to learn Japanese, yes, but I also wanna finish learning Chinese and I want to learn Korean, German, French, Italian, and Spanish. Maybe some others xDD
    you have the same list as me XD i wanna learn another language so bad >.<

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    Re: Anyone actually learning Japanese?

    Post by moeloid on Fri May 28, 2010 3:25 pm

    I wouldn't mind learning something other than Japanese, but the thing is, my English has gotten worse since I started learning Japanese O_O'

    (English is my first language....and I live in America....||||||||orz

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