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Last edited by 루키아(Rukia) on Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:46 am; edited 2 times in total
루키아(Rukia) wrote:yeah, so many empty concepts in where I work with UTAU.
I usually work with UTAU in Korean UTAU user community, And there are sooooooooo many empty concept people!!!!!
I'm angry about them...
(just my grumbles, or need advice...;A; so if you not want to listen depressed story, it would be better to go back site.)
1. some said "My utau is crypton's 4th vocaloid! I'm his CV!".......does that make sence?!?!?!and it is really low quality! he hept persist with it. didn't delete at my warnig.
2. some said "I programmed new program that is better than UTAU or VOCALOID" And that guy is 13 years old. What a genius(HAHA)
3. some said "please oh please love my utau! do you know her?(he?) I want my UTAU's fanarts!!!!" every day, with her(his) low low quality utau bank.(some do not have voice at all...OTL)
4. some made too many(14!!! 7!!!) utau with his(her) voice. they sounds all same and bad!!!! and more, he(she) plays with them!(making profile cool or drawing fanarts and comics of his utau...)This is not character- making forum! it is USER Community!!!
5. some uploaded fandub and persisted this is her UTAU. empty concept!!!!
so...that's not all, but that's major. And in Korea, most of Vocaloid fans are young(10~13) and also UTAU fans are getting younger, too.
not all young utau user are bad but most of them do not know simple use of UTAU.
They just want to make cool character and want to be famous. Not make any efforts with voice bank!!
therefore, non of them is good, or so-so quality. they are 'bad'. I think.
eventually these days...I'm tired. Korean UTAU community have so many empty concepts,(not all, there are a few experts but yes, a FEW...)
and nico...I'm tired of Japanese bad comments.
in conclusion, I'm in BLUE!!!!...
Aline wrote:I'm tired of Japanese bad comments.
Me too, but we need to take in consideration some Nicochu are still way too nationalist, and this turns them into xenophobes who hate everything overseas; and some others are just plain trolls who use anonymous commenting to wreak havoc; not all Japanese users hate overseas with a passion. So, the best thing to do is to ignore the non-constructive criticism.
Even if we suck, they could be nice about it. D: They shouldn't comment rudely at all! Being better gives you no excuse to be rude about it. I mean, lots the oversease users are serious about UTAU too. Their works exceed ours in quality probably because the program is in Japanese, and even with an English patch there are things we can't understand about the program that they can. DXsuthethird wrote:Aline wrote:I'm tired of Japanese bad comments.
Me too, but we need to take in consideration some Nicochu are still way too nationalist, and this turns them into xenophobes who hate everything overseas; and some others are just plain trolls who use anonymous commenting to wreak havoc; not all Japanese users hate overseas with a passion. So, the best thing to do is to ignore the non-constructive criticism.
Don't use being a "nationalist" as an excuse.
The Japanese are serious about UTAU, and as a result, their works typically exceed ours in quality.
Them being "xenophobic" doesn't make them comment rudely. Us having a history of sucking major ass does.
Ezri wrote:
Even if we suck, they could be nice about it. D: They shouldn't comment rudely at all! Being better gives you no excuse to be rude about it. I mean, lots the oversease users are serious about UTAU too. Their works exceed ours in quality probably because the program is in Japanese, and even with an English patch there are things we can't understand about the program that they can. DX
suthethird wrote:Ezri wrote:
Even if we suck, they could be nice about it. D: They shouldn't comment rudely at all! Being better gives you no excuse to be rude about it. I mean, lots the oversease users are serious about UTAU too. Their works exceed ours in quality probably because the program is in Japanese, and even with an English patch there are things we can't understand about the program that they can. DX
If just that was the case, then this problem wouldn't be happening.
Just look at the n00by overseas UTAUs, then look at the n00by Japanese UTAUs.
You'll see a huge gap.
There are very, very few Japanese UTAUs with very low quality.
However, there are many, many overseas ones.
Very few Japanese users make more than four UTAUs with their own voice.
Very many overseas users do.
Japanese wait until they have something worth posting to post.
Overseas users don't.
I would easily assume that if a user doesn't show signs of being overseas, they won't give a damn.
But how would you like to be searching for a book in your library, and half of the books are crappy and in a language you don't speak?
LupinAKAFlashTH2 wrote:
Freeze right there Mae. This is off-topic according to the first post.
This should be related to his rant about the korean UTAU community, not the Japanese community. Stay on topic, or I will get a moderator to lock up the topic.
Save the last part of the first post I mean. But dragging it on won't really do much, now will it.
suthethird wrote:LupinAKAFlashTH2 wrote:
Freeze right there Mae. This is off-topic according to the first post.
This should be related to his rant about the korean UTAU community, not the Japanese community. Stay on topic, or I will get a moderator to lock up the topic.
Save the last part of the first post I mean. But dragging it on won't really do much, now will it.
Hmm-
Kenji, you're being stupid.
Conversations aren't about commenting on the same object repetitively. They're about taking ideas, saying what you think, and then saying what people think about them.
When a conversation diverts, you are adding things to it.
You will notice that the original poster included a reference to the Japanese community. Aline referenced that reference, so I referenced her.
But, if this place is stupid enough to lock a topic because people were having a NORMAL DISCUSSION,
Then **** you ****s, I'm going home.
I feel mature when you say this... xD루키아(Rukia) wrote:And in Korea, most of Vocaloid fans are young(10~13) and also UTAU fans are getting younger, too.
not all young utau user are bad but most of them do not know simple use of UTAU.
They just want to make cool character and want to be famous. Not make any efforts with voice bank!!
therefore, non of them is good, or so-so quality. they are 'bad'. I think.
mintie wrote:
I feel mature when you say this... xD
In truth, it feels good to be famous, but I don't like being in the spotlight. It's not my place. I'm not famous at school, or anything, and I don't want to be. It's not a part of me, that part where you want to be popular and well-known and stuff... I prefer to stay hidden and in the shadows, but someone to acknowledge my existence and not overreact about it. (Did any of that make sense? ._.; Well, an example is in the class. I like to sit in the back, but at least the teacher should know my name, and I don't want to be called upon; something like that.)
산쇼씨 (Sansyo-ssi) wrote:(A korean or japanese user is much much more likely to know an UTAU bank like Camila or Zanda over some obscure bank that came out in just two days.)
산쇼씨 (Sansyo-ssi) wrote:And with the newbie users. I say they're everywhere, and are treated the same by everyone. Most people who are more experienced with the program tend to ignore but complain about them.
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