Cooperation in the UTAU-community CONTEST!

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    Re: Cooperation in the UTAU-community CONTEST!

    Post by vio. on Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:04 pm

    vio. wrote:
    Zeny wrote:
    hows that Asspend going btw?

    lmao I wasn't serious about that.
    xD I know but still. It found it hilarious

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    Post by smeen on Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:10 am

    This is a bump. Because I obviously really want some votes...

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    Re: Cooperation in the UTAU-community CONTEST!

    Post by Aline on Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:16 am

    I'm digging the chorus idea; the UTAU swap would be troublesome due to the fact some computers don't support Japanese and stuff (even though the original users seem to be converting VBs into romaji lately).

    Also, OTO swapping would be hillarious; I'd pity the poor UTAUloid with short samples that would get Aline's otos XD

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    Post by smeen on Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:33 am

    You're right about that, haven't even thought about it... That would give the UTAU-swap some difficulties...

    I'm currently liking the chorus more too. I think it has lots of possibilities and I always like the drama of team challenges xD.

    OTO swaps would be serious fun. I wonder what would happen if an UTAU sounds better with the OTO of another UTAU!

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    Re: Cooperation in the UTAU-community CONTEST!

    Post by xMienaiTsubasa on Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:52 am

    Maybe for the purpose of the contest someone could download all the participating voicebanks and convert them to romaji and alias them so they can be used by everyone (with that suggestion I'm sort of volunteering myself, since I can't see many people being willing to spend so much time doing that)

    Or we could split the contest into 'hiragana banks' and 'romaji banks' but if there aren't many of one it would get a little boring.


    I'm more into the chorus idea as well, because the combined efforts of a team of people would be without a doubt more awesome than just one person working alone. Plus, the people who are less involved in the community could be more involved by talking to others and working in a group with them.

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    Post by smeen on Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:58 am

    I agree with you, the whole reason why I set this thing up is because of people getting connected. A team challenfe will certainly take care of that, plus it would be very interesting to see how some voices fit into a song.

    I'm digging this chorus-thing much, much more. Wanna hear more opinions though. Please tell me your ideas!

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    Re: Cooperation in the UTAU-community CONTEST!

    Post by Trempush on Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:14 pm

    xMienaiTsubasa wrote:I'm more into the chorus idea as well, because the combined efforts of a team of people would be without a doubt more awesome than just one person working alone. Plus, the people who are less involved in the community could be more involved by talking to others and working in a group with them.

    I like this, too, I hadn't thought of computer issues with the swap idea... with choruses, you're just dealing with lining up audio, and that can be done any number of ways.

    And the chorus would motivate people to stick with it more, too, because others would be expecting their part out of them (I know that would work with me, lol). Plus you'd get to know more people 'cause you were working with them.

    Ooh, we could get randomly assigned teams, then...

    So would it be one big chorus or a team of people working on choruses? 'Cause it's still a contest, so I guess the judging could be on how well everyone collaborated and meshed their UTAU's into one song...
    /thoughts

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    Post by Ezri on Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:19 pm

    I like all the ideas. ;w; I just want to start on it soon, actually, regardless of what we do. XD

    I'd be happy to help convert VBs, if that is required.

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    Post by Trempush on Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:22 pm

    lol yeah, I'm getting excited about starting, too Smile

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    Re: Cooperation in the UTAU-community CONTEST!

    Post by Angel Kiss Hikari on Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:25 pm

    I really hope there will be a good contest.
    If there will be, I will most certainly be participating!

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    Post by xMienaiTsubasa on Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:29 pm

    I think, depending on how many people want to participate, we could divide everyone into small teams of 3-6 people, and give them all a number of UTAU to use in their chorus (like UTAU swapping, but in groups). That way if people want to enter more than one of their UTAUs, we can fit both UTAU into different groups. And the groups would have to swap contact details and work out a way to communicate between themselves and come up with the finished song.

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    Post by Trempush on Tue Jun 08, 2010 12:48 pm

    ooOOOOoooh, I like that....

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    Post by smeen on Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:02 pm

    Sounds like a plan!

    And sounds like we're going to do the chorus. I'm okay with that.

    We should spam this on YouTube when we're finished planning it. There are a lot of nice users out there too.

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    Post by xMienaiTsubasa on Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:15 pm

    Yay! I'm all up for youtube spamming, since we need to get a lot of users to participate.

    Since it's a contest, what kind of prizes were you thinking of for the winners? And what about judging?

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    Post by smeen on Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:25 pm

    Well, of course I would love to write fanfiction as a prize... xD But I think we should have prize contributors. Nothing too big though, since it's the thought that counts. Prize contributors can, of course, still join the contest. (And prizes are per group, I think.)

    Haven't thought of judging yet. I don't think judges can participate. (I would love to judge, since I'm also planning on hosting this...)

    I dunno how many judges/prizes we need...

    By the way, removing the poll since we will do the chorus-thing.

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    Post by Ezri on Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:40 pm

    Art seems like a good prize, yes? Everyone loves art! XD

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    Post by smeen on Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:44 pm

    Everyone loves art! Of course! If you want to, you can contribute a prize. Smile

    I don't know how many prizes we need. Or how many judges...

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    Post by xMienaiTsubasa on Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:45 pm

    Yeah, we can ask people to donate art and stuff as prizes, and people can volunteer to donate prizes. I'll donate some artwork for the competition~

    As for judging, they definitely couldn't participate and their UTAU couldn't be used either, as that would make them biased. (I would volunteer for judging, but I'd like to participate XP). We could ask for people to volunteer to judge at the same time as we open the contest for participants, or we could get people here to judge as well. The number we'd need would depend on the number of groups there are, same as prizes. Like, if there's only three groups there should only be a first place prize, but if there's more than six groups we could have some runners up.

    A different way of judging would be to upload all the entries to a youtube account specifically for the contest, and add up the numbers of favourites, comments, views, etc as points, like how the overseas UTAU rankings were done.

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    Post by vio. on Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:47 pm

    I kinda feel sad though, because it's a contest..

    I wish people would do stuff in UTAU with other UTAU just to do something different, rather then competing for prizes..

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    Post by smeen on Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:50 pm

    The YT-channel thing sounds like a good idea, then we could do this more often!

    Judges are not able to participate. I'm not participating since I'm judging... If you want to participate you can, you don't have to spoil all the fun for you.

    So, we should make a list of people who would like to participate, a YT-channel and a video to introduce the contest...

    Do we have strict rules on the entries?

    EDIT: You are right vio, but see it as a step forwards...

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    Post by Chasing Fireflies on Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:01 pm

    Sometimes people just need a little motivation to try something new, I guess. Then if they enjoy it they'll keep doing it in the future. ^__^

    Well, I guess we should have a set of standards (if that's what you mean by rules) so the judges all have something to base their scores off of. Like, is it on pitch, on time, how well do their voices blend together, stuff like that.

    I'd like to participate, by the way~ owo/

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    Post by smeen on Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:03 pm

    Nah, I actually meant guidelines for making a chorus... But these are interesting too. We need things to judge on, next to favourites...

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    Post by suthethird on Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:06 pm

    = 3= I've been wanting to do a really massive chorus...
    /has over 90 UTAUs on her computer

    I think the most important thing to judge on is mixing and if it clips.
    (I think it should be disqualified if it clips.)

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    Re: Cooperation in the UTAU-community CONTEST!

    Post by xMienaiTsubasa on Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:06 pm

    @vio.
    I know what you mean, but the prizes are only small things, and the point of the contest is to encourage people to work together to make songs with each others' utaus.

    @smeen
    If we're deciding the winners from the views on the YT videos we won't need judges anyway, just someone to count up all the points. Judging IS kind of participating to me anyway XD

    We could also do it as Chase suggested, and give the judges criteria to look for when scoring the entries. Then we'd need 4+ judges I think, and we could make an average of their scores for each entry.

    If people want to participate, they should fill in a form with the names and voicebank downloads for the UTAUs they want to be used in the contest, as well as their YT username. I can't think of anything else needed at the moment.

    When we sort the participants into groups we'll need a particular set of rules, like for example to be uploaded to youtube the group will need to make a video (that could be a PV or just a song with an image), and we'll need a deadline for the entries to be sent in.

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    Post by Trempush on Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:08 pm

    man, now I'm torn between volunteering to judge and participating, lol.

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