Rests when doing an .UST by ear

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    Post by smeen on Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:21 am

    I wanna make an .UST And I think it works quite well. But how do you make a rest the excact amount of time it needs to be there? Let's say I wanna have a rest of 16 seconds, how do I do that?
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    Post by Ezri on Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:34 am

    I wouldn't count in in seconds, I would count it in time. ^^;

    For instance, I wouldn't say there's a 16-second pause, I would say that there's a rest for 4 beats. That makes things so much easier.
    Of course, that will only make sense if you have some knowledge of music theory. oAo
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    Post by smeen on Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:39 am

    Noooot really... Sorry... I can do beats though, but how do you use that in UTAU?
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    Post by vio. on Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:52 am

    Beats are measured fours right? When I count for matching times I hit the palm of my hand in beat of "time" .__.'l| I have no music training. So usually I'll just listen to the original version constantly in one part and figure out general areas of the song. I dunno if UTAU has a metronome.. Arent those used for timing?

    You could always just split it in parts at the long rests and make people time it themselves.. xD
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    Post by smeen on Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:54 am

    LOL, I was planning to do that originally yes... And beats aren't always measured fours, you have eights too... But this one is in fours.
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    Post by Ezri on Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:55 am

    Ok, I'll see if I can explain...XD;

    Um, well, when you click the "+R" button in UTAU, it makes a rest. If the thing next on the "Length" drop-down menu says "L 4*then Japanese stuff*", then the rest it generates will automatically be one beat long. So, you'd count the silence in the off vocal or original song and see how many beats long the silence is, then you'd put that many rests into UTAU.

    EDIT: I mean, that's the most common way you're going to encounter it. You can have half-beat rests and stuff, but this is just in-general.
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    Post by smeen on Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:57 am

    Wow, thank you! Learned another thing today!
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    Post by Haloheroine on Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:21 am

    If you're a "I CAN'T LEARN MUSIC THEORY WELLLLL" type person, you can always just open the original MP3 in a very lightweight music player (I use Winamp with a small sized skin for this) and play the UST alongside the original until you can pinpoint where the UST goes offtime, and note the point where it SHOULD be. ^^;; I've been learning music theory for a while now, but I still have to do it this way. >_<;;
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    Post by suthethird on Tue Jun 15, 2010 2:54 am

    ... Erm, I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but the gridline on UTAU is made up my the beat lines and the lines that divide pitches.
    If there's a quarter note in 4/4 time, then you drag it out so that it takes up the space between one line that goes like | and the next line that goes like |.
    (That being said, the tempo has to be right to utilize this.)

    But, to make a rest that needs to be 16 seconds, just make a normal rest, then drag it to 16 seconds using the little length meter in the corner.
    If you can't to that (Because a note is already after the rest), insert several rests and cut and resize those to be sixteen, again using the little length meter near the corner.

    (Had music classes since pre-kindergarten, took piano for two years, and was in the chorus for one year XD;
    I have no idea when I learned sheet music. It's just something I always had a vague idea of. (Pitches, though? I only can remember the treble staff, and I have to repeat "Every good boy does fine..." over and over to find one pitch x__x; ))
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    Post by smeen on Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:19 am

    I can learn music classes, don't worry. xD I know a lot... I'm not into notes and that stuff, but more of a rythm-person... (If I spelled that wrong, I don't really care today.)

    But thanks, both of you. I think I can do it now. xD

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