How exactly do you record? I've been thinking of doing Issho/Hitoru myself, but I'm conflicted with myself.

I want Issho to sound as 'human' as possible. I want to give him triphones.

But the thing is, I don't want to do that for Hitori.

Which makes me feel weird, since I love Hitori to death. But the more I think about it, the more illogical it gets. For one, most voice effects happen because of Mic or Recording conditions. But with Hitori, I purposefully put effects on each of her voicesamples. That's why she sounds so whispery. I'm worried about recording for Issho. Most of the time, the fact that I put in effects to the voice covers up most of the blunders in my voice such as accidental vibrato. The effect I use on the voice samples make it unnatural to have triphones, as in my head, the way that triphones work.. it would make Hitori's singing awkward or too slurred. To me, it's fine the way it is.

But to the recording, how do you guys record? I'm used to fandubbing, so when I think 'Guy voice' my voice automatically drops to a very Gackpo-like voice. But I have a certain tone I want Issho to have, and I know I can carry it out.. if I can stop dropping my voice to that pitch out of habit. Do any of you guys experience this? Am I getting out of hand trying to make two voicebanks in a row? I'm not too sure how to go about this. Any help? Misha? Crossfrown? D;

The majority of females who voices male UTAUloids are always depending of the "g" flag.
I don't know too much about making male UTAUloids if you're female but...I know about making several voices at once. Now I've finished Katarina's new VB and I'm starting to record Cecilia's one, which have a notable difference because Katarina's frequences is at A#3 and Cecilia's at A#4.
If you have the abilities of a voice actor, this will be pretty easy for you. I think you should mark a clear difference between Hitori's voice and Issho's voice, so they doesn't sound too equal.
In the case of Katarina, I've recorded my voice like when I talk IRL. In the case of Cecilia, I've recorded my voice like I'm singing a high-pitched song.
This little difference in the mood of recording can mark a difference.

Um, I, uh.
I don't know a single thing about pitching it right
errr I just deepened my voice and recorded on audacity o xo;;;
sorry I'm not being a big help. I just kinda.... Did it.

You know that voice you make when you're imitating a bigger man acting like an idiot, complete with walking around like gorilla to illustrate how much of a big manly idiot this man is?

Yeah I do that.

You are allotted one singing spleen.
Division and bastardization of that spleen will result in division and bastardization of quality.
That is not good.

...
If you're a girl, and you want to voice an UTAU with a mature voice, voice a female UTAU with a mature voice.

... I hate shotas. I hate them ever so much.

Here's the thing: I am NEVER a fan of editing samples. I believe that samples should be a representation of the voice behind them, not of an archetype achieved through editing and pitching.
Pitching your voice down to attain a 'male' sound will make it sound completely awkward.
If you want human sounding triphones, use your normal speaking voice.
It's the ONLY option.

Well, unless you edit the **** out of everything.
But that's bastardization.

annamaeblythe wrote:You are allotted one singing spleen.
Division and bastardization of that spleen will result in division and bastardization of quality.
That is not good.

...
If you're a girl, and you want to voice an UTAU with a mature voice, voice a female UTAU with a mature voice.

... I hate shotas. I hate them ever so much.

Here's the thing: I am NEVER a fan of editing samples. I believe that samples should be a representation of the voice behind them, not of an archetype achieved through editing and pitching.
Pitching your voice down to attain a 'male' sound will make it sound completely awkward.
If you want human sounding triphones, use your normal speaking voice.
It's the ONLY option.

Well, unless you edit the **** out of everything.
But that's bastardization.

That's what I was going to do. I'm not quite a fan of pitch changes either. Tried it, didn't like it, never going to try it again. The only thing I did to Hitori was add a bit of echo, since her samples before that were looking suspiciously like Ritsu's.

annamaeblythe wrote:You are allotted one singing spleen.
Division and bastardization of that spleen will result in division and bastardization of quality.
That is not good.

...
If you're a girl, and you want to voice an UTAU with a mature voice, voice a female UTAU with a mature voice.

... I hate shotas. I hate them ever so much.

Here's the thing: I am NEVER a fan of editing samples. I believe that samples should be a representation of the voice behind them, not of an archetype achieved through editing and pitching.
Pitching your voice down to attain a 'male' sound will make it sound completely awkward.
If you want human sounding triphones, use your normal speaking voice.
It's the ONLY option.

Well, unless you edit the **** out of everything.
But that's bastardization.

No it isn't. I'm rerecording my male UTAU with pitching, and he sounds MORE human than his unedited version. 8I

I do not appreciate you telling other people what not to do. It's their UTAU and their decision, not yours.

Hey, maybe I want to make a specific voice that I'm not vocally capable of! OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT ALLOWED TO BECAUSE IT'S ~BASTERDIZATION~ of...uh...what?

Ugh.

...Hayao is pitched down in the UTAU program, because I have the view it sounds more realistic than if you Audacity pitch change it.
.____. It definitely does on my voice, not sure about others.

I would recommend singing it in the voice you want (Slight vibrato only adds realism *shot* But really, it doesn't matter much...), then simply importing into the program and seeing what it sounds like on C4.
If it sounds too shota, down it an octave and try putting a g+flag (only, like, g+3 or 4 if you're a good voice actor), see if that gives the effect you want.
If it sounds boyish at C4 (this can happen, it happened to me once), try simply moving it down an octave.

Bah, this is just relaying how I get Hayao. XD
8D But really, if you can voice Gackt low, go for it! Ignore the Vibrato, but test the samples in the program to see if it effects the notes in any way D:

OKAY OKAY IT'S WORKING PERFECTLY.

Use a husky, mature voice. Pitch down to a certain degree (never go 19 or higher, or else it'll be too deep and icky).

TADAAAA.

I disapprove of in-program male UTAUs (lolwhat *reverse*) because it's pretty much the normal bank genderbended.

Crossfrown wrote:OKAY OKAY IT'S WORKING PERFECTLY.

Use a husky, mature voice. Pitch down to a certain degree (never go 19 or higher, or else it'll be too deep and icky).

TADAAAA.

I disapprove of in-program male UTAUs (lolwhat *reverse*) because it's pretty much the normal bank genderbended.

Aww, I feel like crap again now ;-; I must be sensitive today.

Ah... I did try my hardest to get a deep voice originally for Hayao... But now, when I try to deepen his voice myself, it just sounds... Not like Hayao... (Also, now I use OREMO, and can you even pitch down in that?) So I will continue making him to be Genderbended...
B-but he does kinda sound shota in C4 now ;-; I just like him to sound manry, so I Genderbend him. If I were to make a female UTAU, she would sound completely different I SWEAR.


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.......Now I feel like people don't like me or something... gah I need chocolate and something soothing, I must be, like, hyper or something. XDD Moodswiiiings~

Pffft

I don't mind that you're doing it, I'm just not fond of the idea. 8D;; Sorry to make you antsy.

If a voicebank that did this was never released, it would fly right over my head, TBH.

Um, I had to pitch down for Ichiro AND set a gflag AND go down an octave.
Of course, this was before I knew Audacity could pitch change things. I doubt I would have gone that route anyway.
Whatever, I think he sounds great and isnt a shouta.
'Cause I agree with Mae on the shouta. I'm not a big fan of it.
Whats worse in my eyes however, are the 18 - 20somethings that have a shouta voice. MALES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY >____>

Personally, I'd like it if people directed me to shota voicebanks, because those are the only ones I use and I absolutely refuse to use that Seun kid because of his stupidly long and irrelevant name, which means all I have is Peanut (best ever) and my own UTAU. >:

One that does not have a super duper story or is just a girl claiming her voicebank is a boy because lolshota.

;____;

Hnnn, when I make opposite gender recordings, I put it in with the main voicebank. 8u8 It just seems more organized that way.
But, the "opposite gender" recordings are me just singing at F4, without falsetto or editing. If I want it to sound female in UTAU, I just use the F4 set and genderbend it with flags to make it sound a little more convincing as a girl's voice.

Editing files that were recorded really high (in the 4 scale) to sound male is just riddiculous, it won't sound nattural at all. eAe;; But, if you manage to record lower in the 3 scale and THEN edit it, it should sound more passible. (Also, I don't mean editing the pitch necessarily, just editing the gender of the voice in UTAU or Melodyne, or something.)


AND BY THE WAY.
REAL SHOTACHARA AREN'T VOICED BY TEENAGED GIRLS/usually. I reccomend either an actual boy, or an older woman as a voice, since they have the closest vocal range. C': (I think girls trying to make their voice sound shota is actually kinda creepy sometimes, ahaa;; eue)

Well, I think if you are a contralto (lowest female voice), you easily can make a male UTAUloid without sounding like a shota. I'm a mezzosoprano and I can do that, but things are a bit more difficult for me.