Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

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    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by annamaeblythe on Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:07 pm

    This was in an email I received today-

    I might offend you.

    Because of anonymity, we feel free to post comments.
    Without thinking of the author. Anon can be good or bad.
    So... If you mind, I would suggest you not to post videos on nico.
    Someone could insult vid. (no matter how great it is)
    Nico is not just friendly.

    -Ebi Senbei, the maker of Okiamiuta Ebi's Love is War -snow mix-.

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    Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by LupinAKAFlashTH2 on Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:53 pm

    annamaeblythe wrote:This was in an email I received today-

    I might offend you.

    Because of anonymity, we feel free to post comments.
    Without thinking of the author. Anon can be good or bad.
    So... If you mind, I would suggest you not to post videos on nico.
    Someone could insult vid. (no matter how great it is)
    Nico is not just friendly.

    -Ebi Senbei, the maker of Okiamiuta Ebi's Love is War -snow mix-.
    ...Woow.
    Um.
    The creator of the LiW-SM- sent that to you? (Fail acronym is very fail)
    Ummmmm.
    Are you offended?
    Was this originally in Japanese? (Or is this bad english?)
    And this is why I'm scared of Nico Nico Douga. (Though I love it soooo much)

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    Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by Fumfum on Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:07 pm

    Why can't we upload? Because we are oveseas? Nico is in German too. And I don't believe Japanese people always have better UTAUs. Why is some failloid allowed to post on YT, but not on Nico? Some people do even talk about "not nico-worthy songs/videos/UTAU/" Just wtf. That sounds to me like "oh, Youtube is just for noob users"
    I think Nico is for uploading, whoever you are. Even you have a failloid.
    (excuse me for my poor English)

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    Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by annamaeblythe on Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:00 pm

    Ebi and I have been talking to each other for quite some time over email. They have pretty good English, to be honest.

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    Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by MariRoseTair on Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:50 pm

    Fumfum wrote:Why can't we upload? Because we are oveseas? Nico is in German too. And I don't believe Japanese people always have better UTAUs. Why is some failloid allowed to post on YT, but not on Nico? Some people do even talk about "not nico-worthy songs/videos/UTAU/" Just wtf. That sounds to me like "oh, Youtube is just for noob users"
    I think Nico is for uploading, whoever you are. Even you have a failloid.
    (excuse me for my poor English)

    They said that because Nico is a whole lot different then Youtube, Because Nico and the Japanese nico-chus are a different community.

    It's not for those who are much more softer skinned.

    and to be honest I'm agreeing.. but in a different way.
    Most of us here.. don't speak Japanese so whatever the Nico-chus can offer us would be useless... because well... would we even understand it?

    Youtube isn't just for failoids, it's for westren users to get comments and constructive crit.

    However... some people seem to forget that and would rather spam Nico Nico Douga. =./

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    Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by kisekixkoe on Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:00 pm

    annamaeblythe wrote:Ebi and I have been talking to each other for quite some time over email. They have pretty good English, to be honest.

    ^This is true,
    I have SOME family in japan, who i converse to via email and skype, and they have perfectly fine english,
    I mean, most of them learn it in secondary school (high school) and most dont have heavy accents (a good exmaple of this is kanipan) of course there are those who do.

    BUt other then that, yes, unless you have some AMAZING PV like:
    Spoiler:

    ..Then honestly dont try
    unless if they have a server in your language, like femmeh uploading and anyother dutch users and spanish and
    ahny germanic languages or romantic languages (ys i used the right term) then honestly, the only reason you should have a nnd account is to watch videos, of course, unless you speak decent japanese , liike, Yoru or (Mianaito?)
    I know like very little japanese (some BASIC kanji + like 2/3 of hiragana and 1/4 of katakana ) and normal statements like "Good work" and thats it, so I honestly am not good enough to u[load to NND.

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    Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by LupinAKAFlashTH2 on Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:05 pm

    kisekixkoe wrote:
    annamaeblythe wrote:Ebi and I have been talking to each other for quite some time over email. They have pretty good English, to be honest.

    ^This is true,
    I have SOME family in japan, who i converse to via email and skype, and they have perfectly fine english,
    I mean, most of them learn it in secondary school (high school) and most dont have heavy accents (a good exmaple of this is kanipan) of course there are those who do.

    BUt other then that, yes, unless you have some AMAZING PV like:
    Spoiler:

    ..Then honestly dont try
    unless if they have a server in your language, like femmeh uploading and anyother dutch users and spanish and
    ahny germanic languages or romantic languages (ys i used the right term) then honestly, the only reason you should have a nnd account is to watch videos, of course, unless you speak decent japanese , liike, Yoru or (Mianaito?)
    I know like very little japanese (some BASIC kanji + like 2/3 of hiragana and 1/4 of katakana ) and normal statements like "Good work" and thats it, so I honestly am not good enough to u[load to NND.

    ....You're right.
    Even when I'm able to access Nico, all I see are PVs.... really good ones too.
    I know I'm a good artist, but not good enough to make a PV for Nico.

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    Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by missingpixiesticks on Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:45 pm

    I would never upload anything to Nico, even if I thought it was good enough. (not that everything on Nico is a good as you guys seem to be making it out to be ¬__¬ There appears to be an opinion on here that it's some sort of website for amazing stuff. It's not, you just browse over the crap.)

    Anyway back to my point ... it's because I wouldn't be able to string a sentence together long enough to even pretend I could speak japanese. Think about it, if you were on a website that was only in english, and someone came on and started speaking a different language that you couldn't understand, wouldn't you be annoyed. Especially if they were trying to speak your language without actually being able to, (thus, what most overseas utauloids do) and so got sentences that just didn't make any sense.

    Now, add your irritants with anon, and what do you get. Freedom to say what you think about the situation.

    I wouldn't take that as an insult. It's more a complement. It means that they think that your stuff is good enough, but don't want you to get disheartened by what others might say.

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    Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by Crossfrown on Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:32 pm

    Okay. Okay everyone listen.

    Nicovideo and 2CH are basically 4chan.

    You know the third in Kagamine Len's benzene series? That was dedicated to nico trolls and his hate for people better than him.

    There's nothing preventing you from uploading works as long as they aren't bad. Yes, you might get trolled by anon, but you could also pick up a following and have Japanese users become aware of you.

    HATERS GONNA HATE. If you can't deal, it's your own problem.

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    Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by xLei on Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:10 am

    Crossfrown wrote:HATERS GONNA HATE. If you can't deal, it's your own problem.

    ^ This.

    *doesn't really have anything more to say*

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    Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by melonramune on Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:05 am

    annamaeblythe wrote:This was in an email I received today-

    I might offend you.

    Because of anonymity, we feel free to post comments.
    Without thinking of the author. Anon can be good or bad.
    So... If you mind, I would suggest you not to post videos on nico.
    Someone could insult vid. (no matter how great it is)
    Nico is not just friendly.

    -Ebi Senbei, the maker of Okiamiuta Ebi's Love is War -snow mix-.

    I get what he means Oo' Like here:
    http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9576051
    The Nico-users got pretty ticked off at me because they think Hana looks like Miku, sounds like Luka, and overall a total VOCALOID rip-off [atleast that's what my level of Japanese tells me]

    I don't think he's saying "oversea UTAU programmers get off nnd", but rather warning us that there're racist people on nnd and it's best to stick with people of our own language so we can "avenge" ourselves Laughing

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    Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by Crossfrown on Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:45 pm

    I highly doubt Nico would insult your UTAU for sounding like a Vocaloid, especially since she sounds nothing like Luka. Misread "Ruko"? (Ruka/Ruko)

    Maybe the art. The anatomy is several levels of "WHAT AM I LOOKING AT".

    But yeah if there's something wrong there is no such thing as polite with anon.
    I got a "this is shit" once. Nothing else. They were even considerate enough to put it in romaji so I could read it.

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    Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by smeen on Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:38 am

    It's quite nice for him to say this. I know people who get insulted by something that wasn't even ment to be insulting so if you can't take such things don't post there. (Also, if you can't take such things don't post on YouTube but that's totally my own opinion.)

    But I don't think you have to look at the art. I can give you perfect examples of videos on Nico with bad art.

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    Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by Catarsis on Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:36 pm

    smeen wrote:It's quite nice for him to say this. I know people who get insulted by something that wasn't even ment to be insulting so if you can't take such things don't post there. (Also, if you can't take such things don't post on YouTube but that's totally my own opinion.)

    But I don't think you have to look at the art. I can give you perfect examples of videos on Nico with bad art.

    ^ THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. 8'D

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