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    Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by REN on Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:48 pm

    Hai guys!
    We finally made UTAU tetete chorus with Slaviks!

    We worked hard on this video ^-^
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    Vsq by sango312
    Vsq was edited by me and Chansey
    The song was mixed by Chansey
    The arts were done by Waterfall-ice
    The video was done by me
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    All UTAUs in this video are from Slavik group:
    Blanc Shou by waterfall-ice
    Senne Ruri by Keichan
    Kotori Shizune by Chansey
    Moetatsu Wika by DeUnicum
    Teion Enpa by Chibi Black Doom
    Iiki Koe by me, Ren.

    Hope you will like it ^^

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Ezri on Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:57 pm

    Wow, it's so well made! And all the UTAUs are adorable! I'll have to download them! >w< So cuuuuute!

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by MillyAqualine on Sun Aug 15, 2010 4:58 pm

    I love it I love you

    And your Utau's voice is always sweet and wonderful...

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Undecided on Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:05 pm

    I'll be assuming that the last name is first in the video for these characters...if I'm wrong, I apologize.

    Shou is decent, but the T in "te" isn't clear enough. It sounds like it could be a K or something. Transitions between syllables need some work too.
    Ruri sounds almost like a more breathy Momo (that's a compliment).
    Kotori's voice is a little too loud compared to the song.
    Wika also sounds quite a bit like Momo. Perhaps something should be done to make sure she isn't redundant. (Also, her name would technically be pronounced "Ika" in Japanese. There's no "wi" sound.)
    I'm hearing some background noise in Enpa's voice...
    Iiki is good, but once again the T in "te" is ambiguous and she seems to be skipping vowels occasionally.

    Some of these voices I liked, some I didn't, but I appreciate the effort you took to make it. The PV you made is honestly not half-bad, but of course not on the Rolling Girl PV's standards or anything.

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by REN on Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:58 pm

    Wow, it's so well made! And all the UTAUs are adorable! I'll have to download them! >w< So cuuuuute! thank you.
    MillyAqualine pleased to hear it.
    Undecided Yes it is, I did everything like in original tetete video.

    It is not girls' fault that their UTAUs sound like Momo, everyone has his\her own voice, so sorry that they sound like Momo.

    About Wika's name. Well, we are not japanese, all six of us speak Russian, and Russians pronounce sound "wi"

    but of course not on the Rolling Girl PV's standards or anything
    You made me laugh, honestly.

    I appreciate that you wrote a critique, but I want to say, that I don't like when somebody criticize if I didn't ask for critique. That doesn't mean that you need to say "OMG kawaii awesome and so on", you are freely to say if you like it or not, but not criticize. You may think " awww little girl just can't take the critique serious", no, it's not. The thing is that every thing I do, I do it for myself, because I enjoy the process, the result and so on. So as for me, such works can be criticized seriously only by myself.

    If I do smth specially for public, I certanly will write that I want to hear some critique, so you will be welcomed.

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Undecided on Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:48 pm

    It is not girls' fault that their UTAUs sound like Momo, everyone has his\her own voice, so sorry that they sound like Momo.

    Well, some people voice act for their UTAUs, so they could have avoided it. But I do understand that not everyone has voice acting talents.

    About Wika's name. Well, we are not japanese, all six of us speak Russian, and Russians pronounce sound "wi"

    Yes, but their names seem to be in a Japanese style and they are singing a Japanese song. It's strange to make a Japanese-esque name that wouldn't even work in Japanese.

    I appreciate that you wrote a critique, but I want to say, that I don't like when somebody criticize if I didn't ask for critique. That doesn't mean that you need to say "OMG kawaii awesome and so on", you are freely to say if you like it or not, but not criticize. You may think " awww little girl just can't take the critique serious", no, it's not. The thing is that every thing I do, I do it for myself, because I enjoy the process, the result and so on. So as for me, such works can be criticized seriously only by myself.

    If I do smth specially for public, I certanly will write that I want to hear some critique, so you will be welcomed.

    Since you are making these works for yourself, there's no point in making them public unless you want other people to enjoy them as well. And if you want more people to enjoy them, you have to take criticism. But since you specified that this is for yourself, why did you post it?

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by REN on Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:15 am

    Well, some people voice act for their UTAUs, so they could have avoided it. But I do understand that not everyone has voice acting talents.

    Well, some people don't voice act for their UTAUs, because people want to sound their UTAUs just like themselfs.

    Yes, but their names seem to be in a Japanese style and they are singing a Japanese song. It's strange to make a Japanese-esque name that wouldn't even work in Japanese.

    Well, I want to say that every CV got sound "wi", and besides it is written even in UTAU wiki that we can name our UTAUs how we want.

    Since you are making these works for yourself, there's no point in making them public unless you want other people to enjoy them as well. And if you want more people to enjoy them, you have to take criticism.

    Than you should go and criticize other "Tetete" videos.

    But since you specified that this is for yourself, why did you post it?

    Firstly I have a right to post, so I post :) And besides I post to hear was it good or bad, but not for critique. To estimate and to criticize are too different words. I appreciate that you said about sounds "te", but that was too much saing about names, and that "not on the Rolling Girl PV's standards or anything", our aim was not to make a PV on such standarts or so, we did it firstly for our enjoyment.

    And I will repeat one more time: I didn't ask for critique.

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Darkkira1332 on Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:53 am

    Awesome!!! Wow they really sound cute!!! also...Is it just me? or someone sounds like luka?

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by REN on Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:06 am

    Darkkira1332thank you, people say Ruri sounds like Luka

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Darkkira1332 on Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:16 am

    so thats why...oh yeah kira(my utauloid) is happy to see a lot of sisters he got!! ^_^

    Kira:....what ever...oh well at least I know that the world of utauloids huge. at least none of them hates miku...I guess.


    DK1332(whispers):(oh yeah Kira respect every Utauloid as a sibling, Except some of the Vipperloids, Especially Sokune Tei).

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Undecided on Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:25 am

    REN wrote:Than you should go and criticize other "Tetete" videos.

    ...That's not what I was saying. At all.

    REN wrote:Firstly I have a right to post, so I post Smile And besides I post to hear was it good or bad, but not for critique. To estimate and to criticize are too different words. I appreciate that you said about sounds "te", but that was too much saing about names, and that "not on the Rolling Girl PV's standards or anything", our aim was not to make a PV on such standarts or so, we did it firstly for our enjoyment.

    When you ask whether something is good or bad, the response should not simply be "it's good" or "it's bad". That gives no helpful information. What you're basically saying is "you can tell me it's good or bad but don't you DARE tell me why you thought that", and that's sort of silly, isn't it?

    The point about not being on the Rolling Girl PV's standards was not meant as a negative point, it was meant as clarification. I didn't expect an incredibly impressive PV like that for this video, and it doesn't really need one. I also only made one point about a name, and that was just pointing something out.

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Chansey on Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:55 am

    Undecided wrote:The point about not being on the Rolling Girl PV's standards was not meant as a negative point, it was meant as clarification.I didn't expect an incredibly impressive PV like that for this video, and it doesn't really need one.

    So_why_did_you_say_it_at_all. It was offensive.

    Undecided wrote:Yes, but their names seem to be in a Japanese style and they are singing a Japanese song. It's strange to make a Japanese-esque name that wouldn't even work in Japanese.

    Who said Wika is "a Japanese-esque name".


    Undecided wrote:Well, some people voice act for their UTAUs, so they could have avoided it. But I do understand that not everyone has voice acting talents.

    To voice act just because someone said that your utauloid sounds like Momo is stupid.

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Undecided on Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:07 pm

    Chansey wrote:So_why_did_you_say_it_at_all. It was offensive.

    I said it to clarify that it wasn't superduperawesomeamazing like the Rolling Girl PV, but good anyway in its own right. I'm sorry you found it offensive.

    Chansey wrote:Who said Wika is "a Japanese-esque name".

    Not necessarily on its own, but combined with the last name (Moetatsu) and even spelled in Japanese in the video, it seems to be the case.

    Chansey wrote:To voice act just because someone said that your utauloid sounds like Momo is stupid.

    It is not stupid, however, to voice act if your normal voice sounds too close to an existing (and rather popular) UTAUloid. Like I said, it prevents redundancy.

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Chansey on Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:19 pm

    Undecided wrote:
    Not necessarily on its own, but combined with the last name (Moetatsu) and even spelled in Japanese in the video, it seems to be the case.

    Haven't you ever seen Briton with non-British name? Russian with non-Russian name? So why there can't be Japanese with non-Japanese name? In addition to Wika is a demon, she can be named as she wants.

    Undecided wrote:
    It is not stupid, however, to voice act if your normal voice sounds too close to an existing (and rather popular) UTAUloid. Like I said, it prevents redundancy.

    Stupid and useless. Noone is insured against sounding like someone other, trying to change a voice and redo all vb just because others heard Momo/Teto/Tree there is a Sisyphean toil.
    Nami sounds like Rin, noone complains.




    BTW. Everything you wrote here wasn't a critique at all. Just a lot of cavils

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Undecided on Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:41 pm

    Chansey wrote:Haven't you ever seen Briton with non-British name? Russian with non-Russian name? So why there can't be Japanese with non-Japanese name? In addition to Wika is a demon, she can be named as she wants.

    That's not what I am saying. I will restate what I said before: I wouldn't consider the name Japanese(-esque) on its own, but combined with the last name (Moetatsu) and the fact that it's even spelled in Japanese within the video, I believe it is supposed to be Japanese-esque.

    Chansey wrote:Stupid and useless. Noone is insured against sounding like someone other, trying to change a voice and redo all vb just because others heard Momo/Teto/Tree there is a Sisyphean toil.
    Nami sounds like Rin, noone complains.

    Well, I am just one person, but if many people find one voicebank far too similar to another UTAUloid then they are more likely to download the more popular one. Nami's case is different as Rin isn't freely available to everyone.

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Chansey on Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:05 pm

    Undecided wrote:
    That's not what I am saying. I will restate what I said before: I wouldn't consider the name Japanese(-esque) on its own, but combined with the last name (Moetatsu) and the fact that it's even spelled in Japanese within the video, I believe it is supposed to be Japanese-esque.

    Oh. God. Save me from brain collapse. It's UTAU world, man. So what? Wika Moetatsu confuses you, and Yomiko Readman [R.O.D. character] - doesn't? =="

    Undecided wrote:
    Well, I am just one person, but if many people find one voicebank far too similar to another UTAUloid then they are more likely to download the more popular one. Nami's case is different as Rin isn't freely available to everyone.

    If that, Ruri's and Momo's vb are not far similiar.


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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Undecided on Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:14 pm

    Chansey wrote:Oh. God. Save me from brain collapse. It's UTAU world, man. So what? Wika Moetatsu confuses you, and Yomiko Readman [R.O.D. character] - doesn't? =="

    I haven't personally heard of this character, but it doesn't confuse me. "Readman" can be pronounced in Japanese (albeit rather Engrish-y), but "Wika" cannot. "Wi" is, once again, obsolete and is now identical to "I".

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Chansey on Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:26 pm

    Undecided wrote:
    I haven't personally heard of this character, but it doesn't confuse me. "Readman" can be pronounced in Japanese (albeit rather Engrish-y), but "Wika" cannot. "Wi" is, once again, obsolete and is now identical to "I".

    So WHY hiragana has "wi"? WI exsists. Yes, it's already obsolated, but exsists in some words, some characters' names especially. I'm not a great language-knower, but it's a fact. And btw. Wika is 1000-year-old oni. So her name is justificated

    And stop_the_hell_caviling_at_the_details.


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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Undecided on Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:37 pm

    Chansey wrote:So WHY hiragana has "wi"? WI exsists. In some characters' names especially. And btw. Wika is 1000-year-old oni. So her name is justificated

    "Wi" exists, but the only other place I've seen it used is with Tewi Inaba from Touhou Project. I understand if she was born when it was still in use, but that still does not explain why "wi" is written as ウィ in the video (which is used primarily for foreign names that use a "wi" sound) when ゐ (what they used back then for "wi") would have done. Her name still would be pronounced as "Ika" in Japanese, however.

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Chansey on Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:43 pm

    Undecided wrote:
    "Wi" exists, but the only other place I've seen it used is with Tewi Inaba from Touhou Project. I understand if she was born when it was still in use, but that still does not explain why "wi" is written as ウィ in the video (which is used primarily for foreign names that use a "wi" sound) when ゐ (what they used back then for "wi") would have done. Her name still would be pronounced as "Ika" in Japanese, however.

    Because Wika, or Vika, is a foreign name. However, it's author's right to name her character Wika. NOT_DAMN_IKA
    And I told you, STOP IT. It's a caviling already.

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Undecided on Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:58 pm

    Chansey wrote:Because Wika, or Vika, is a foreign name. However, it's author's right to name her character Wika. NOT_DAMN_IKA
    And I told you, STOP IT. It's a caviling already.

    It's only a caviling because you're taking it as one.

    I am making no attempt at denying the right to name her character Wika, merely informing that it's no longer pronounced the same as it used to be, and that ウィ should be replaced with ゐ to be more accurate.

    This doesn't have to be difficult. The previously-mentioned Tewi is pronounced "Tei" in Japanese, but "Tewi" in English. Wika would, likewise, probably be pronounced "Ika" in Japanese, but "Wika" in English.

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by vio. on Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:03 pm

    Undecided, I don't know who the hell you are, or who the hell you /think/ you are. If they wanted goddamn critque the girls would have asked for it. You're being incredibly rude in your approach to them; Stop it now.

    They've all asked you to stop themselves, and you are causing a disturbance in this forum and the members. I might not be a damn mod, but this is ridiculous. So stop it, Or I will personally have something /done/ to prevent this.

    :| Okay? Okay.

    I've noticed you lack an UTAU of your own, and the knowledge of the program itself; Yet you seem to have enough knowledge to critique and slander the hardwork actually put into other's videos. You have no right to undermine any achievements or effort put forth by any of our users here; because apparently they've achieved more than you have at this point.

    My guess is you're not a n00b to UTAU, you have one, but you feel like being an anonymous over-critiquer here on this forum. Even so, such uncalled for Critique was never desired, asked for, and they even told you to stop multiple times.

    When you make a crystal-clear, better than Ritsu-UTAU, let me know so, you know, I will actually take anything you critique seriously, because there is a difference between constructive criticism, and just rude-banter under a "Critique" label.


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    Post by Luna on Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:22 pm

    ^ Pretty much everything that Vio said. ILU DADDY/GRANDPA.

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by Undecided on Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:31 pm

    vio. wrote:Undecided, I don't know who the hell you are, or who the hell you /think/ you are. If they wanted goddamn critque the girls would have asked for it. You're being incredibly rude in your approach to them; Stop it now.

    They've all asked you to stop themselves, and you are causing a disturbance in this forum and the members. I might not be a damn mod, but this is ridiculous. So stop it, Or I will personally have something /done/ to prevent this.

    Neutral Okay? Okay.

    I've noticed you lack an UTAU of your own, and the knowledge of the program itself; Yet you seem to have enough knowledge to critique and slander the hardwork actually put into other's videos. You have no right to undermine any achievements or effort put forth by any of our users here; because apparently they've achieved more than you have at this point.

    My guess is you're not a n00b to UTAU, you have one, but you feel like being an anonymous over-critiquer here on this forum. Even so, such uncalled for Critique was never desired, asked for, and they even told you to stop multiple times.

    When you make a crystal-clear, better than Ritsu-UTAU, let me know so, you know, I will actually take anything you critique seriously, because there is a difference between constructive criticism, and just rude-banter under a "Critique" label.

    This isn't even critique anymore. The first post I made was, and while that was not asked for, I have made attempts to defend my choice and I have not been told a good reason why I shouldn't have. Now it's merely degenerated into one person yelling at me for simply pointing something out, being remarkably more rude than me, and choosing to argue pointlessly.

    I was not intending to be rude whatsoever. Some statements I have reread may have come off as rude and I apologize for them, but overall it seems more of the girls (especially Chansey) overreacting a bit.

    Not having an UTAU is not stopping me from knowing that there were some errors in pronunciation and similarity to other UTAUs. That's like saying you have to be an award-winning director to dislike a film.

    And...rude banter? Tell me where you are finding rude banter here. I like the video. The art was good and I appreciate the effort it must have took to make it. The voices aren't as good as they could be but are still good enough. I found flaws in it and I pointed them out - and they might have taken a bit too much of the post, I apologize for that - but everyone makes mistakes. The good outweighs the bad here, and I might not have made it clear enough in my critique but I definitely feel that way.

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    Re: Tetete (Slavik UTAU group)

    Post by numbarr3 on Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:37 pm

    Okay seriously, NO ONE ASK FOR A CRITIQUE,so just STFU and leave us alone Undecided.

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