Introducing an UTAU voicebank review site: UTAsex!

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    Introducing an UTAU voicebank review site: UTAsex!

    Post by Orochi Herman on Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:00 am

    No, it's not a porn site. It is a voicebank review site. Currently we don't take external reviews right now as we're ironing out the policies for that.

    http://utasex.rotbrc.com/

    Help spread the word. :D Reactions of all kinds are welcome.

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    Re: Introducing an UTAU voicebank review site: UTAsex!

    Post by zin on Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:39 am

    you should make a page for voicebank review requests xP

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    Post by Haloheroine on Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:50 am

    I just started a Youtube account for this, I had the idea in mind for AGES.

    ...Affiliates? XD *can't be bothered closing it down and giving up*

    Also, in the future, May I do a critique on your critiquing system?
    Noticed a few kinks is all, not trying to pick a fight XD

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    Re: Introducing an UTAU voicebank review site: UTAsex!

    Post by zin on Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:51 am

    whats the youtube name

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    Re: Introducing an UTAU voicebank review site: UTAsex!

    Post by Orochi Herman on Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:56 am

    Haloheroine wrote:I just started a Youtube account for this, I had the idea in mind for AGES.

    ...Affiliates? XD *can't be bothered closing it down and giving up*

    Also, in the future, May I do a critique on your critiquing system?
    Noticed a few kinks is all, not trying to pick a fight XD

    Do tell.

    Also if you can translate your review criterion into the one we have, maybe we can feature those here.

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    Post by smeen on Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:20 am

    I will be featuring this in my next newsfeed! Very nice!

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    Re: Introducing an UTAU voicebank review site: UTAsex!

    Post by Haloheroine on Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:03 am

    Yeah, I'm still working on everything; hoping to have it up and running in about 4-5 days, and have most of the information and a critiquing outline up in less time than that. ^^

    But I need to release Hayao's VCVs as well, so it's gonna be a bit of a rushed intro video. x__x''

    ANYWAY. CRITIQUE OF YOUR CRITIQUE.

    Firstly, may I say, great job on getting the idea at the same time as me XD
    Seems very well planned and such, nice to see someone else who cares about quality, thanks.

    Now, onto the critique!


    Site- 20/25
    Ah, it's pretty. HOWEVER. Maybe it's a little intimidating? I'd suggest changing the colors a bit.
    Now, I'm trying my hardest not to focus on this bit too much, since it isn't what the main point of this is, but gosh.

    The two content browsing bars are REALLY distracting. D:
    It would make more sense to have them either all in the same place, or to move News and Home up with Site rules and such, while having the review searching buttons on the second bar where they are now.
    okay website designer mode, OFF. Back to your critiquing.

    Critique style- 16/25
    Okay, it could stand to be a little less informal, as well as... limited. You hardly point out problems and weak areas, you really just stick to what the outline says...
    You know?
    Like...
    "VOICEBANK SAMPLES
    He’s got decent samples.
    Score: 2"
    That. Is. A crappy crit. XD That's one of the worse examples on the site.
    You should really try to prolong it and try to speak like you're actually talking to the person in front of you.
    How could they improve?
    What would you do?
    A higher quality program?
    Where exactly did they go wrong to make it JUST decent?

    Well, it still does it's job, can't be too harsh.

    Consistancy- 15/25
    ...Is almost non-existent.
    Deary me ^^''
    Some of the time you're really quite harsh and stick with it, and some of the time you're just kind of... "Yay, they're a wonderful bank~~~"... Then sometimes you're just kinda like... "...whatever, no comment, this bank is kinda cool."
    Really. You could stand to do more background research, as well (Yasu is a boy, by the way, the whole girl thing was someone being annoyed at a female>male voicer.)

    Criteria- 8/25
    PLEASE EXPLAIN. XD

    You should probably CLEARLY state how much each category is worth on each critique...
    And the star system is a bit all over the place.

    Also, while I was looking over your criteria, it's a little limited for it to be out of ten, right?
    I personally do mine out of 100. ^^ Makes it more accurate, whereas in yours, it's really... Well, inaccurate, leaves room for the imagination. Also, really easy to get a 0 or to get a 2.

    And I'd recommend including small sections on the oto and design.
    Even if they don't add to the total score, they are important parts of the UTAUloid. Particularly the oto, but if a design is bad, they may go unnoticed.

    TOTAL- 59/100

    Please consider my suggestions. ^^''
    Overall, yes it does it's job, and yes, people will appreciate it...
    But it really does need a bit of work to be more accurate and the best it can be!

    (H-holy unripe doo-doo covered banana long post is long XD I get so carried away writing crits XD)

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    Re: Introducing an UTAU voicebank review site: UTAsex!

    Post by Darkkira1332 on Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:12 am

    hooo....I think that is a good site...it might help me some other time in the future. I rate it 8.4 out of 10.



    (but seriously....why named it Utasex? now my parents just pulled my ear...)

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    Re: Introducing an UTAU voicebank review site: UTAsex!

    Post by Orochi Herman on Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:21 am

    Okay.

    Site: Regarding site, do you have a wordpress scheme you have in mind?
    Critique Style: Good point. In fact there are reviews sent to me I've kinda put on hold because of the lack of proof. I've made it a point in the site to provide proof to justify their statements, but if you see something that kinds of overlooks this, always tell us.
    Consistency: This is going to be quite a problem, but not impossible to fix. However, in cases of being uninformed, this is what leaving reactions in the site are for. In this case, it is the reviewer who should be informed if there are details that are written wrong.
    The tone of the site may change drastically, but a degree of professionalism is always attempted to be made whenever possible.
    Criteria: Read the criteria section yet? But yeah, the star system needs to be elaborated. The overload of the 10 point system is somewhat intentional.

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    Re: Introducing an UTAU voicebank review site: UTAsex!

    Post by Haloheroine on Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:59 am

    @OHerman
    Yeah, I read the Criteria section.
    I just thought it left way too much to the imagination. D: it's too easy to get a 0 or a 2, in some cases, even with a mediocre bank you could get a 2.

    I had no Wordpress theme in mind, I thought you could just delve into the code and switch some things around...
    But if it's Wordpress, that's a little hard, isn't it? XD



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    Re: Introducing an UTAU voicebank review site: UTAsex!

    Post by irei1as on Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:16 am

    It's a good site. I think it's still a bit counterintuitive to navigate around but I doubt you can improve it even farther with wordpress.
    I'm bookmarking it for sure.


    I would like to see a simplified list of the voicebanks reviewed. Something like:

    Name 1 -> Score
    Name 2 -> Score
    ...
    Name N -> Score

    And be able to click in the name to get to the full review.


    Also there is a criteria point it's way too soft:

    ORIGINALITY
    /.../
    -1 point for voicebanks found to be plagiarizing, or voicebanks sampled or acquired without permission.

    Just one negative point for an illegal voicebank? I don't know.

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    Post by Orochi Herman on Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:27 am

    Noted. Should be far harsher imo for plagiarism. Maybe a * 0, or for really cruel effect, * -1?

    I agree with you ire1as on the list though, but making a dedicated php script for that is really cumbersome, which is why I settled for wordpress for the meantime.

    Also, if the reviewer is vague, didn't explain well, or lacks proof, always bring up that topic on the review page so you can be heard. This is important so that it will be official.

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    Re: Introducing an UTAU voicebank review site: UTAsex!

    Post by Aline on Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:18 pm

    I'm kinda against reviewing voicebanks. Most of it are technical stuff (although I've seen usable voicebanks with low sound quality, like Riki León, Misuinu Kaiki's revamp and perhaps Aline herself), but the personal opinion and the voice originality kinda tick me off. Why? *Sigh*

    People can't choose to have an original voice. Even if they voice act, it might make things inconstant, and perhaps worse than they already are. If Aline's voice was too generic, I'd be sad, but if I voice-acted (for real, not just using a slightly more mature inflection from my normal voice like I did), she'd just sound like a softer, low-quality Teto (as I've shown with Linny's and Teto's duet in Hato), and this would be even worse.

    And about personal opinions... It might be biased. It's the reviewer personal view. Good thing it doesn't detract points, but if Mae (for example, although it seems like she did some of those reviews; who else would call Yasu Sora a female, daggummit) was reviewing a voicebank like Takane Miru, she'd probably not give points to her because she's a treble bank (of which she usually despises), despite the fact she's high quality; it'd diminish her overall score in comparison a not so high quality bank she'd love, like, I dunno, Gin Rickey, for example. I'd take that personal review off, as it seems too biased for the site's own good.

    Then again, it's not like I'm right or anything. I don't take my very personal opinions as facts, and neither should you, if it displeases you.

    (BTW, I like how MOD0 nulls any slight pitch variation, but alerts me that Aline's "ba" still sucks. OTL)

    P.S.: Do pops and cracks in places that can be edited in the oto (right at the start, before the consonant, by the end of the vowel) count as detracting for the voicebank? They can be easily cut with oto.ini settings, so, I think it'd be harsh if they did.

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    Re: Introducing an UTAU voicebank review site: UTAsex!

    Post by zin on Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:46 pm

    can you review kurisu?

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    Re: Introducing an UTAU voicebank review site: UTAsex!

    Post by Orochi Herman on Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:33 pm

    zinfandel, please make an official request of that to the email address. Razz

    Do pops and cracks in places that can be edited in the oto (right at the start, before the consonant, by the end of the vowel) count as detracting for the voicebank? They can be easily cut with oto.ini settings, so, I think it'd be harsh if they did.

    If it's redeemable, like it is an issue that can be fixed, it can still be scored well.

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