What sound is this?

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    What sound is this?

    Post by tadashiwa on Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:03 pm

    Generally, when it appers in the voicebanks, it is like those possible kanas: か゜き゜く゜け゜こ゜, カ゜キ゜ク゜ケ゜コ゜, or カキクケコ. I can't hear it very clearly, but I think it is a sound near of ng or ñ (nh), i can't distinguish. Can someone confirm if they are one of these sounds, or if not, which is?
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    Re: What sound is this?

    Post by Psycho↑ ↓ on Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:46 pm

    か゜き゜く゜け゜こ゜and カ゜キ゜ク゜ケ゜コ゜...i'm not sure if they even exist xD
    and the last one is "Ka Ki Ku Ke Ko"
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    Re: What sound is this?

    Post by tadashiwa on Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:59 pm

    Psycho↑ ↓ wrote:か゜き゜く゜け゜こ゜and カ゜キ゜ク゜ケ゜コ゜...i'm not sure if they even exist xD
    and the last one is "Ka Ki Ku Ke Ko"
    actually, all those kanas that I've written there have the same consonant, but I put the ways I found in some banks that can represent it, so the last ones aren't ka, ki, ku, ke, ko either.
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    Re: What sound is this?

    Post by Tsumanne on Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:08 pm

    From what I've gathered listening to samples with those particular kana, they sound like nasal [n] consonants. I don't know if they actually are, but they at least sound that way.
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    Re: What sound is this?

    Post by Noteloid on Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:46 am

    These are ng sounds like nga,ngi,etc...
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    Re: What sound is this?

    Post by LupinAKAFlashTH2 on Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:41 am

    So they're filipino? owo
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    Re: What sound is this?

    Post by tadashiwa on Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:50 pm

    Tsumanne wrote:From what I've gathered listening to samples with those particular kana, they sound like nasal [n] consonants. I don't know if they actually are, but they at least sound that way.
    say nasal 'n' is redundant, because 'n' is already a nasal consonant. And I found the answer myself in the wikipedia, there it says it is a nasal velar consonant (ŋ), also known as "ng".
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    Re: What sound is this?

    Post by 산쇼씨 (Sansyo-ssi) on Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:41 pm

    They're the traditional way of pronouncing がぎぐげご which was originally the /ng-/ begining consonant, which comes from Older Chinese. (It's still in many Southern Asian Languages, and in Canto) Standard japanese pronounces がぎぐげご with a /g/ but many dialects use the traditional way as well.

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    Re: What sound is this?

    Post by Guest on Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:54 am

    As usual, Sansyo-nim comes to save the day ^^

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