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    Post by Aline Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:06 pm

    Yeah, that's it. Exactly what you read.

    If you're wondering, I was talking to Scarfu and TheFallenInfant on Skype about how we could create a group where everyone (except perhaps the trolls, since they're up to no good) would be able to enter and help each other with designs. After I and Scarfu were discussing about how weak Aline was as a character (Mary-Sue backstory and stuff), I decided that we should make it a complete workshop.

    Note that we won't force our ideas on other people; they modify their characters if they want to. What we're planning to do is to create a breeding ground for good ideas that could help unite the fandom and stop the whole bashing that's going on.

    It might be a good idea, it might not be, but I'm sure that who isn't good in design, art or character development can help as well, even if it's just by telling the idea they wanted to have but couldn't execute (just so other people can make it better), or by spreading the word.

    Just a final remind: Scarfu and TheFallenInfant didn't know I created this thread up to after I published, so, they might not agree with everything said here xD; Please, understand it before bashing this idea and its thread.
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    Post by scarfu Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:07 pm

    Workshop!!! *u*

    I'm really excited, I really want to help people who want the help! <3
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    Post by M0NSTER Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:08 pm

    WHOOT~! :D I'm in this c: I'll help out and get some tips myself x3
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    Post by thefalleninfant Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:09 pm

    Heh~ I'm up to help also ^^, but like Scarfu said, you must be prepared to hear all we gotta say 'o'~ and want to be helped ^^.
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    Post by Sakiko Hanane Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:11 pm

    I am getting good feelings from this thread *u* I am definitely in if you'll have me; character design is a weak spot for me and I'd love to learn from you cool people. <333 O-of course I'll do my best to help others, too, once I know what the heck I'm doing.
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    Post by Ezri Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:13 pm

    This sounds super-fun! XD! I'd love to help other people out with this sort of thing. ouo Character design is one of my strong suits, so I hope I could help! XD; And tips on other UTAUs I might make would be helpful, too! >w<
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    Post by Kiyone Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:16 pm

    Like everyone else,I'm pretty excited for what thing thread can bring! <3
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    Post by M0NSTER Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:20 pm

    Better ideas, better UTAUs c: LESS VOCA-FAIL D8<
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    Post by Yume Barauta Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:55 pm

    Ooh, I'd really like to help out with this! 8D
    I, uh, don't know how good I am at this stuff but yeah. xD;;;;;;;
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    Post by BlazePyron Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:04 pm

    I freaking love character design. I could just endlessly create characters, except I abhor otos, so I just stick with Kaen.

    Seriously, I could go into great detail on Kaen's personality. Don't tempt me.

    I think female characters have a harder time with character design though. Males have a disticnt advantage because the fangirls either go "OMG, SHOTA!" or "OMG, MANVOICE!" It's harder to create a popular female character.

    I think neko-ish characters have a hard time too. Not only do trolls go "BLARG, A NEKO! RAAAGH!" but then there's the fact that the artfully self-righteous people go "BLARG, UNORIGINAL! RAAAGH!"

    Anyway, should some sort of template be set up? Something like

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    Color Scheme:
    "-dere" classification:
    General personality:
    General clothing:

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    Post by Ezri Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:07 pm

    "-dere" classification seems a little...umm...I don't know, I'm just not sure about including that. >w>; -Dere classifications seem to be very generalized. Perhaps that could be included in "general personality" if applicable?
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    Post by xLei Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:09 pm

    I like this idea \o/
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    Post by BlazePyron Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:11 pm

    Okay, I just threw that in there because a lot of people seem to already have that figured out about their characters. Maybe just have general personality.

    I just find personality to be an important factor in giving clothing feedback. I'm more of a writer than an artist, though.
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    Post by scarfu Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:13 pm

    Woah a lot of posts while I was recording my rant. XD Okay so I'm not actually sure if this is the actual thread or what...?

    Aline are we actually doing the workshop in this thread or are we just proposing the idea? XD
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    Post by R.K. Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:14 pm

    Yeah, I'm all for this idea. :D
    BlazePyron wrote:
    I think female characters have a harder time with character design though. Males have a disticnt advantage because the fangirls either go "OMG, SHOTA!" or "OMG, MANVOICE!" It's harder to create a popular female character.
    I somewhat agree with this, but I also sort of don't? I mean, there are some out there who rise above. It just takes a lot of effort. :3
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    I think neko-ish characters have a hard time too. Not only do trolls go "BLARG, A NEKO! RAAAGH!" but then there's the fact that the artfully self-righteous people go "BLARG, UNORIGINAL! RAAAGH!"
    ;w;
    Unoriginal?
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    Post by BlazePyron Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:25 pm

    R.K. wrote:
    BlazePyron wrote:
    I think neko-ish characters have a hard time too. Not only do trolls go "BLARG, A NEKO! RAAAGH!" but then there's the fact that the artfully self-righteous people go "BLARG, UNORIGINAL! RAAAGH!"
    ;w;
    Unoriginal?

    I do not think this. There are some who insist upon it, though. It's really sad. Sad
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    Post by scarfu Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:34 pm

    Well, to be entirely honest, I think cat-themed characters are PAINFULLY overdone. XDDD;

    Like, aren't there like a BILLION other animals you can pick from OTHER THAN A CAT? Like oh my god EVERYONE and their mom does cat type characters, even outside of UTAU, it'd be refreshing to see something other than a cat girl... .___.

    Rabbits are just as bad, but there doesn't seem to be a rabbit-themed UTAU yet... at least not one that I can think of off the top of my head. XDDD

    I personally can't take cat-themed UTAU very seriously at all. XD;
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    Post by R.K. Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:36 pm

    I feel like re-designing my UTAU now. Dx
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    Post by Ezri Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:37 pm

    I think wolves are worse, personally. Dx
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    Post by scarfu Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:38 pm

    I dunno, I think anything with animal appendages in general = kind of stupid. .___.

    Like, they're not original, they look like the products of weeaboos... orz

    I should warn everyone: I'm very, very honest with my opinions. .__. I don't mean to be offensive, I just want to show everyone what things look like from my perspective XDDDD;
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    Post by BlazePyron Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:38 pm

    scarfu wrote:Well, to be entirely honest, I think cat-themed characters are PAINFULLY overdone. XDDD;

    Like, aren't there like a BILLION other animals you can pick from OTHER THAN A CAT? Like oh my god EVERYONE and their mom does cat type characters, even outside of UTAU, it'd be refreshing to see something other than a cat girl... .___.

    Rabbits are just as bad, but there doesn't seem to be a rabbit-themed UTAU yet... at least not one that I can think of off the top of my head. XDDD

    I personally can't take cat-themed UTAU very seriously at all. XD;

    I rest my case.

    For the people genuinely obsessed with cats, the "neko is unoriginal" theory is a curse. A freaking curse.

    Thankfully, I'm obsessed with fire. :3
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    Post by Nanashi_Zokune Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:42 pm

    BlazePyron wrote:I freaking love character design. I could just endlessly create characters, except I abhor otos, so I just stick with Kaen.

    Seriously, I could go into great detail on Kaen's personality. Don't tempt me.

    I think female characters have a harder time with character design though. Males have a disticnt advantage because the fangirls either go "OMG, SHOTA!" or "OMG, MANVOICE!" It's harder to create a popular female character.

    I think neko-ish characters have a hard time too. Not only do trolls go "BLARG, A NEKO! RAAAGH!" but then there's the fact that the artfully self-righteous people go "BLARG, UNORIGINAL! RAAAGH!"

    Anyway, should some sort of template be set up? Something like

    Name:
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    Color Scheme:
    "-dere" classification:
    General personality:
    General clothing:


    yeah feli get's the same kind of trolls yelling at her about that.
    but i loves cat girls and bunny girls~

    but i do like this idea of a workshop i do hope it can get off the ground.
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    Post by xLei Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:52 pm

    scarfu wrote:Rabbits are just as bad, but there doesn't seem to be a rabbit-themed UTAU yet... at least not one that I can think of off the top of my head. XDDD

    There's this soon to be released UTAU that's a bunny (if I'm not mistaken that is, not sure if Jani already released him or not)

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    Post by Zeny Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:56 pm

    Ezri wrote:I think wolves are worse, personally. Dx

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    Post by Aline Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:57 pm

    scarfu wrote:Woah a lot of posts while I was recording my rant. XD Okay so I'm not actually sure if this is the actual thread or what...?

    Aline are we actually doing the workshop in this thread or are we just proposing the idea? XD

    We're basically proposing the idea. We need to keep a set of rules (to avoid trolling and mantain a quality control), to assign a place for that, and why yes, designate functions to our members. We also need to know how to make members interact, convince them to accept ideas and tell their suggestions, and how to make sure the topics won't become an unnecessary dramafest. All in the good name of collective fun and improvement.

    EDIT: Scarfu, you forgot about Amane Luna. She's not overseas, but she has bunny ears! xD

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