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    Haloheroine
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    Files/samples you have problems saying?

    Post by Haloheroine on Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:10 pm

    Well, this came up because I'm recording a set of female VCVs (because my female CVs sound wierd).

    You may not ever hear her.
    BUT WOW.

    So I use rolled rs for Hayao, because in my opinion, they sound sexy on guys.

    I can pronounce the Japanese r perfectly fine, however, so I was recording her r sets normally...

    Then I got to "rorunranru".

    I cannot for the life of me say "nra" properly.
    Like, really. It turns into "na" or "n -rolled r-".
    Why. OTL

    Your turn.

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    Re: Files/samples you have problems saying?

    Post by Catarsis on Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:18 pm

    None in special, 'cause Japanese and Spanish pronunciations are almost the same. Razz
    I have some troubles recording English, though. It's not my native language and we (Chileans) have a very bad pronunciation comparating with other Spanish-speaking countries XD

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    Re: Files/samples you have problems saying?

    Post by Asteriski on Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:24 pm

    Ri, chi, and any of the sh sounds. (Yes, only ri. Not the other r sounds.)

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    Post by Chasing Fireflies on Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:39 pm

    Haloheroine wrote:
    I cannot for the life of me say "nra" properly.
    Like, really. It turns into "na" or "n -rolled r-".
    Why. OTL

    Oh my gosh, me neither! I tried for a while and the best I could do was sort of an "n da". ;___;

    Also, on every single voicebank I record ever, the "wa" sound is just SO WEIRD. I have no idea why. XD;;

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    Re: Files/samples you have problems saying?

    Post by BlazePyron on Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:14 pm

    ru for me always sounds horrible. It's like "DUUUUUUUU!". Also, m's and s's are over-exaggerated in my samples.

    I'm going to try and have my consonants softer in Kaen Act III. Maybe it'll sound smoother that way.

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    Re: Files/samples you have problems saying?

    Post by Ezri on Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:33 pm

    I haven't had this problem with recording, because I've yet to attempt VCV's, but I was singing a song one day until the lyrics got to "Goenryo shimasu".

    I settled with something like "goenyo" and gave up. OTL

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    Post by 산쇼씨 (Sansyo-ssi) on Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:54 pm

    ...In japanese/korean-- R after N is pronounced the "L way" EVE

    ..The "proper" way to say Korean and Japanese R sounds like an L. ...However, when people talk, they get lazy and some people pronounce it as a soft rolled R-thing. (It's still pronounced with the tongue the same way, just 'quicker' basically.)
    (For example, Teto's Renzoku Rs = lazy Rs)

    LALALALLALALALALALAAAA
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    Re: Files/samples you have problems saying?

    Post by Aster Selene on Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:26 pm

    I have a problem with rwa/rwu. OTL

    There's prolly an "easy way" to pronounce it that I'm missing out on.

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    Re: Files/samples you have problems saying?

    Post by BlazePyron on Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:29 pm

    Aster Selene wrote:I have a problem with rwa/rwu. OTL

    There's prolly an "easy way" to pronounce it that I'm missing out on.

    Isn't rw supposed to be the attempt at the english r? I thought I saw some discussion about that.

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    Post by LeLias on Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:47 pm

    I cant get over my extremely canadian weeaboo accent either...

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    Re: Files/samples you have problems saying?

    Post by StateOfDep on Thu Oct 07, 2010 10:58 pm

    Whenever I see "wo" I wanna pronounce it in Chinese (which I usually do anyways...).
    And... my English R's sound funny, orz.

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    Post by .amuletdream on Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:59 am

    'tsu'.

    = =

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    Post by Haloheroine on Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:03 am

    OH yodeling BLOODY-- ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?
    OTL I put in effort to try and make this chick sound right and I'm doing it wrong.

    Ah, well.

    But lol, Syo. Beautious example you used there.

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    Post by smeen on Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:04 am

    English Rs. I can't seem to do that...

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    Re: Files/samples you have problems saying?

    Post by Catgirl on Fri Oct 08, 2010 5:22 am

    I have problems with R's too orz
    Italian has trilled R (or rolled, if you want), so it SHOULD be easy for me, but it's actually not. X_x
    It seems I can do a softer R (still trilled, but weak enough to be acceptable) if it's in the middle of the words, but not at the beginning. And at the beginning I roll them like mad Dx So my samples are all too rolled and if I try not to roll it, something weird comes out XD;
    And between all the R sounds, 'ru' is the worst. Last time I tried to record it was still like 'RRRRuuu' despite my attempts to say it quick Dx

    Need to practice more with it x_x

    And I still haven't tried English and VCV <.<
    "rorunranru" is indeed a nightmare to say XD *is trying*

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    Post by MariRoseTair on Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:32 am

    R's Everytime even when I try to do Rolled r's. they sound.. so English it burns.
    Which is why Siana will always have L's instead.. I just can't seem to get my r's to sound unenglish.

    and anything with an Sh attached to it, because of my lisp. >_<

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    Re: Files/samples you have problems saying?

    Post by Makku on Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:43 am

    I apparently have a lot of problems with just common letters. Most surprisingly, M's and N's.

    It seems to be a common Swedish thing, but I make stupid amounts of clicking sounds with my tongue when I speak. It's a pain to stop doing it for recording.

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    Re: Files/samples you have problems saying?

    Post by Tsumanne on Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:58 am

    I have trouble saying the Japanese [r] on its own. When it's for VCV however, I can handle it.

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    Post by Mai Murasaki on Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:14 am

    Anything with 'ch''j',sh in it x.x. I`m sorry but SERIOUSLY they sound AGHGHD friggin bad o.e Oh oh and "rya,ryu,ryo"... Am sorry but whaaat? I have no friggin idea how to pronounce that...I do plain L`s for the jap voicebanks i`m making and I h ave no friggin idea how that should sound...And some stuff from CZ`s CV VC list are liek "lolwhut" to me e.e

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    Post by Mayuen on Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:57 am

    The sh sounds sound terrible for me... But that can be that I didn't know what I was doing when I recorded it XD

    And I can't say R, which isn't a swedish thing, I just can't pronuce it (I said L when I was little) now it's some kind of fake R, so I need to stay with that. But I think my fake R is pretty similar to the japanese one xD

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    Post by irei1as on Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:04 am

    I know my "tsu"(つ) is horrible. I had to re-record it a lot of times.
    I was like "tssssu" and with this sample you can't cut the start in the oto like "sssu" because the t is there, uh.


    Another thing is I'm probably doing a lot of other samples wrong and I don't know they are... but this isn't in the topic theme.

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    Re: Files/samples you have problems saying?

    Post by Angel Kiss Hikari on Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:29 am

    I have problems with the 'r' sounds, of course, because I don't know if/when I do them correctly...

    And, the hya/hyu/hyo/hye... for some reason I just don't like them.

    And the u an i sounds, without consonants, always sounds weird to me >.<

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    Post by xMienaiTsubasa on Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:52 am

    I have the same problem with nra and nr samples, even though I can pronounce a Japanese r fine too.

    I also can't and have never been able to roll my rs XD Which is too bad, since I love how they sound.

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    Re: Files/samples you have problems saying?

    Post by Aster Selene on Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:38 pm

    "tsu" is a lie. It's more like a cross between "tu" and "su". Like...

    When you say "tu", your tongue hits the front of your mouth. "tsu" is when you have your tongue lazily glide instead of hit full-on.

    If you have issues with "rya", then your rs are wrong.

    ...People who speak Spanish have quite an advantage, since their "r" is similar to the Japanese/Korean r.

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    Post by xLei on Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:42 pm

    chi, shi and sho cho

    They hate me, very often. Vista's "chi" sounds like a ghetto version of "shi" OTL

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