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    Gee UST - Korean?

    Post by Becca D on Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:44 pm



    There's already this UST out, but it's the Japanese version of the song... so I was wondering if anyone understood Korean, they could edit the UST to the original Korean lyrics? I was hoping to make my UTAU sing it to the best of her abilities with Japanese syllables.
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    Re: Gee UST - Korean?

    Post by Haloheroine on Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:01 pm

    Well, I was making one with Korean syllables when this was released...

    But maybe you should try to edit that one yourself if you're going to be using a standard Japanese bank? That way it will sound right for your UTAU.
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    Re: Gee UST - Korean?

    Post by dokune on Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:35 pm

    ^ Agree with Halo.
    Also note that Korean is tricky. I would record additional notes, because some sounds cannot be made with Japanese phonemes.
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    Re: Gee UST - Korean?

    Post by Becca D on Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:02 am

    dokune wrote:^ Agree with Halo.
    Also note that Korean is tricky. I would record additional notes, because some sounds cannot be made with Japanese phonemes.

    I was going to do it myself, but I don't know the first thing about Korean. Do they have something like romaji? Cuz if I were to look up lyrics I'd probably get weird Korean symbols that I couldn't understand.

    And also, my UTAU has plenty of English syllables that I could use also. I just don't understand Korean.
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    Re: Gee UST - Korean?

    Post by dokune on Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:21 pm

    Becca D wrote:
    dokune wrote:^ Agree with Halo.
    Also note that Korean is tricky. I would record additional notes, because some sounds cannot be made with Japanese phonemes.

    I was going to do it myself, but I don't know the first thing about Korean. Do they have something like romaji? Cuz if I were to look up lyrics I'd probably get weird Korean symbols that I couldn't understand.

    And also, my UTAU has plenty of English syllables that I could use also. I just don't understand Korean.
    Romaji...well, you could certainly, but wouldn't make sense. A strong "tk" sound for example:
    "teuk" and etc.
    Even I don't understand Korean written in English (and I'm Korean.)
    It's much easier to hear.
    My advice, if you don't know Korean, is to listen to the original version many times.
    Or you can wait until I get Dokuse's ACT3 done and eventually get to making my Korean cover.
    D:> (highly not suggested)

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    Re: Gee UST - Korean?

    Post by Guest on Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:29 pm

    Korean indeed has romaja, but it's impossible to transliterate into Japanese. Or English.
    You need to have Korean phoenemes to be able to properly put it in a song. And having a good knowledge of han'gul/pronunciation while listening to the song helps.
    (When I make Korean usts, I always read the han'gul. I cannot comprehend romaja. It makes my head hurt.)

    I know Syo was working on one so...

    By the way, I still hate this song. ><
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    Re: Gee UST - Korean?

    Post by 산쇼씨 (Sansyo-ssi) on Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:45 pm

    Oh---
    I'm working on one with a korean UTAU, "Myeong So Ri"
    ...I'll get it done today or tommorow. EVEd+


    ...But if you want it to work with japanese phonemes--

    Spoiler:

    가 = か・が
    까 = か
    나 = な
    다 = た・だ
    따 = た
    라 = ら
    마 = ま
    바 = ぱ・ば
    빠 = ぱ
    사 = さ
    싸 = さ
    자 = ちゃ・じゃ
    짜 = ちゃ
    차 = ちゃ
    카 = か
    타 = た
    파 = ぱ
    하 = は

    아 = あ
    애 = え
    어 = お
    에 = え
    오 = お
    우 = う
    으 = う
    이 = い
    야 = や
    얘 = いぇ
    여 = よ
    예 = いぇ
    요 = よ
    유 = ゆ
    와 = わ
    왜 = うぇ
    외 = うぇ
    워 = うぉ
    웨 = うぇ
    위 = うぃ
    의 = う~い (え)

    The korean alphabet is a lot easier to learn than the japanese alphabets, and works similar to english... ...I wouldn't recommend trying to make a japanese utau sing korean though, it's really hard to make it understandable.
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    Re: Gee UST - Korean?

    Post by Haloheroine on Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:23 am



    The korean alphabet is a lot easier to learn than the japanese alphabets, and works similar to english... ...I wouldn't recommend trying to make a japanese utau sing korean though, it's really hard to make it understandable.

    That's a matter of opinion. I found Japanese easier than Korean, BECAUSE Korean works similar to English |:

    But haha, I was using Shou to make mine. XD *shot*

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    Re: Gee UST - Korean?

    Post by Guest on Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:29 am

    Ah-ah-ah. I dunno about that, Halo.

    In Japanese (at least with kana) you have to memorize about 50 different characters - in han'gul, you have to just know the components.

    For instance in Japanese there is a totally different character for "ka" (か) and "ki" (き) and they look completely different. But in Korean, there is a separate character for "k" (ᄏ), "a" (ㅏ), and "i" (ㅣ), so you could easily phase together the syllables from the components - "ka" (카) and "ki" (키).

    In short, han'gul is phonetic, Japanese is syllabic.

    ""A wise man can acquaint himself with them [hangul] before the morning is over; a stupid man can learn them in the space of ten days." -훈민정음 해례
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    Re: Gee UST - Korean?

    Post by Haloheroine on Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:33 am

    HHHHNGH.
    That's why I said it's a matter of opinion! I find it hard, a lot of people may not. Well, I suppose I could have phrased it better... More, it varies per person.

    I find it difficult to read han'gul and frequently mess up readings EVEN WHEN I HAVE A CHART. (By the way, I know how han'gul works, I HAVE tried my best to learn some)

    But as soon as I got my hands on a hiragana chart, I memorised it in two (half an hour) sessions.

    Well, then. I suppose I'm just an idiot.

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    Re: Gee UST - Korean?

    Post by Guest on Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:36 am

    Hm...I guess it does depend on the person. It took me a month (as a 6-year-old) to finish learning han'gul, but it's been over two years since I started trying and I still haven't gotten my hiragana...

    By the way, Syo, 의 might actually be the closest to い, as since my family and I are lazy, the last syllable in my name, 희, is in common practice pronounced more like 히. Kind of like how your 소 is pronounced more like 쇼 in your name (admittedly even I find saying 소 in your name rather awkward) except in this case 희 doesn't have a perfect Japanese equivalent.
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    Re: Gee UST - Korean?

    Post by Becca D on Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:36 am

    ....... o u o

    Yeah maybe I better not even try x'D It's good to hear it's like English, but I dunno anymore, it sounds a lot harder than I thought it would be.

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    Re: Gee UST - Korean?

    Post by Guest on Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:57 pm

    Well, the han'gul/pronunciation guides are easy to learn, but...

    It's best not attempted unless you have a Korean bank. ^^

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