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    UST help please..?

    Post by *Mattaki_Seimutsune on Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:30 pm

    Umm.hi im a total NOOB at UTAU even if I do have my own Utauloid.

    My question is...how do you make a UST on time of a song/how to time it to sing at the time its supposed to.

    I mean, I know if you click ''new'' you make a random new UST. But I don't know how to time it..

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    Post by Aster Selene on Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:56 pm

    You need to know music theory, like eighth-notes/half-notes/quarter-notes/full-notes (not in that order) etc.
    Beat and pitch knowledge are also necessary.

    So it helps if you've studied an instrument before.

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    Post by BlazePyron on Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:11 pm

    Aster Selene wrote:You need to know music theory, like eighth-notes/half-notes/quarter-notes/full-notes (not in that order) etc.
    Beat and pitch knowledge are also necessary.

    So it helps if you've studied an instrument before.

    I think he's asking more about how to make a ust from scratch.

    The easiest way is to find a midi and import it and then write in the lyrics. If you want to do a .ust "by scratch" then you just pretty much have to guess the pitch and note lengths. If you can read music you can make a ust off of sheet music too.

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    Post by Aster Selene on Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:13 pm

    ...I know. He's talking about a ust from scratch.

    midis work, but are unpredictable (they don't always line up in time). Pitch and note-lengths are not "guessing", and reading music requires knowledge of music theory.

    So it goes back to what I said: music theory.

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    Post by BlazePyron on Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:22 pm

    Well, you don't need to know music theory, just maybe how to read music. Music theory is more chord progressions and other things music composers need to know. He's not wanting to compose music, just to write a ust for a song. There's no easy way to do that, but knowing how to read music will help, but you don't necessarily need to know how.

    But by no means can you just pick a song and start writing a ust from scratch. It will take forever, especially if you're a newb.

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    Post by Aster Selene on Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:23 pm

    BlazePyron wrote:But by no means can you just pick a song and start writing a ust from scratch. It will take forever, especially if you're a newb.

    ...I do that.

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    Post by BlazePyron on Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:35 pm

    *sigh*

    Well, I was talking more to the OP than to you. I'm sure experienced users can make usts from scratch without much problem.

    *isjealous*

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    Post by Aster Selene on Sun Oct 10, 2010 11:36 pm

    Well, it's not really experience...it's knowing basic music theory. Like I said.

    It helps to tap your finger to the beat while you listen to the song and what parts it takes two notes to fill a beat and what parts it takes one and what parts two beats take up one note.

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    Post by Catarsis on Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:05 am

    oh btw, if you're going to make an UST by ear you must calculate the BPM of the song Smile

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    Re: UST help please..?

    Post by Aisu on Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:03 pm

    ^This. Tap tempo helps a lot.

    Also, I completely agree with Aster - it all comes down to music throery in the end. (Luckily, I have learned to play multiple instruments before, and music theory was obviously included. Especially when it comes to the piano.)

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    Re: UST help please..?

    Post by *Mattaki_Seimutsune on Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:23 pm

    Ah, ok thank you Smile

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    Re: UST help please..?

    Post by *Mattaki_Seimutsune on Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:26 pm

    Aster Selene wrote:You need to know music theory, like eighth-notes/half-notes/quarter-notes/full-notes (not in that order) etc.
    Beat and pitch knowledge are also necessary.

    So it helps if you've studied an instrument before.

    Uh huh....thank you, but unfortunatly I don't actually play an instrument, nor know what half-notes and things mean, i'm like..very um, how you could say...not experienced with music.

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    Post by Aster Selene on Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:28 pm

    Hm...Just go with tap tempo then.

    You're going to have to learn (or at least know) note-relativity though, since just randomly guessing at notes usually doesn't do much.

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    Post by *Mattaki_Seimutsune on Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:31 pm

    BlazePyron wrote:
    Aster Selene wrote:You need to know music theory, like eighth-notes/half-notes/quarter-notes/full-notes (not in that order) etc.
    Beat and pitch knowledge are also necessary.

    So it helps if you've studied an instrument before.

    I think he's asking more about how to make a ust from scratch.

    The easiest way is to find a midi and import it and then write in the lyrics. If you want to do a .ust "by scratch" then you just pretty much have to guess the pitch and note lengths. If you can read music you can make a ust off of sheet music too.

    Ah thank you, I actually have heard of MIDIs, but never really new they could help make a UST XD

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    Re: UST help please..?

    Post by *Mattaki_Seimutsune on Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:32 pm

    Aster Selene wrote:Hm...Just go with tap tempo then.

    You're going to have to learn (or at least know) note-relativity though, since just randomly guessing at notes usually doesn't do much.

    Oh, okay then. Thank you very much Smile

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    Re: UST help please..?

    Post by *Mattaki_Seimutsune on Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:33 pm

    vodKata wrote:oh btw, if you're going to make an UST by ear you must calculate the BPM of the song Smile

    Mkay, thanks :3

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