Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

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    Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by hello8bit on Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:11 am

    Does this bother anyone? I mean, I suppose I don't mind it too much as long as the person who's doing it is accepting of OTHER UTAUxVOCALOID pairings in which the same VOCALOID they are pairing their UTAU with is being shipped..

    I don't know.. I see some seriously obssesive people who threaten others about how "Len is Mine!!" or "BACK OFF MY KAITO". And I'm just sitting here thinking "..what? You're ridiculous if you think you're the ONLY person who likes that official character."

    Thoughts on this? And please, PLEASE do not think I am attacking you if you have your own little pairing going on. I'm fine with it as long as you keep yourself in check. So no fighting. /o/

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by MariRoseTair on Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:18 am

    I'm not keen on them to be honest, especially when the person's very in your face about it.
    Duets I don't mind because some Utauoilds sound brilliant with certain vocaloids. It's when it's taken too far and they declare it canon that bugs me.

    But urgh, I cannot stand those who attack any and all utauoilds that are also "paired" with their "beloved" It reeks of sadness and if they calling the other ones "mary-sues/Gary stus as well: Hypocrisy.

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by hello8bit on Mon Oct 18, 2010 10:26 am

    MariRoseTair wrote:I'm not keen on them to be honest, especially when the person's very in your face about it.
    Duets I don't mind because some Utauoilds sound brilliant with certain vocaloids. It's when it's taken too far and they declare it canon that bugs me.

    But urgh, I cannot stand those who attack any and all utauoilds that are also "paired" with their "beloved" It reeks of sadness and if they calling the other ones "mary-sues/Gary stus as well: Hypocrisy.

    I don't favour them, but I can't be against them seeing as how much I understand why people do things like that. Still, I agree with your second statement. It's hard enough for me to pair Vocaloids with Vocaloids, let alone UTAU with Vocaloids and really be supportive of it.

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by Kikomi on Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:30 pm

    i HATE that people do that. i mean the whole "back of my..." whoever.

    its a fictional character

    if you are THAT obsessive, than get out, get some friends, get a life, and most importantly, a REAL boyfriend >.>

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by Luna on Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:52 pm

    hi I feel this whole thread is aimed directly at me kthx C:

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by ThePianoChan on Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:10 pm

    I have to say.
    I absolutely DETEST when people do that. I barely stand when Vocaloid and VOCALOID are put together, let alone a vocaloid and UTAU. It drives me NUTS. Seriously. I cannot take it. It's stupid, to be honest.

    My thing is:
    1: It's not your creation.
    2: There are no "Canon" paring in Vocaloid, let alone UTAU unless stated by the creators them selves.
    3: IT'S FICTIONAL.

    You wanna pair your UTAU with a Vocaloid? Fine, do it privately. But not so the rest of us can see. C:

    And Luna,
    Spoiler:
    if you really think that, keep it to your self, or between Hello8bit and you a PM. Seriously. Hello8Bit stated that it WAS NOT DIRECT AT ANYONE.
    .

    On the other side.

    There are girls/boys who have nothing to hold onto and "cling to an open ended character as if it was a relationship with them." or "Make their creation be in love with that in hopes of people noticing" or sometimes just do it for attention. C:

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by BlazePyron on Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:17 pm

    I think that if it's a good quality Utau that sounds good and looks good with a Vocaloid, it's awesome. LunaxLen is perfectly acceptable, imo. The ones that I don't like are the ones that sound like unripe doo-doo covered banana that they try and pair with a vocaloid and say it sounds good.

    Also in this general area: People who insist that their Utau is friends with all the vocaloids. Idols is okay, but not friends. Unless you have a really good character that sounds like a vocaloid. Then you could get away with it.

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by hello8bit on Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:33 pm

    Simply because I have a hard time reading specific details the first time myself, I'll let that one slide Luna.

    @Blaze: I don't really think a good voice and design makes it any more "acceptable". As I stated, I don't really mind it as long as the person isn't completely possessive, but.. an UTAU is still an UTAU no matter what. But if you choose to support certain pairings, then feel free to do so. non/

    Let's all just remember that this isn't canon and you can't ever expect it to be. But I'm not here to rain on our parade, I just wanted to hear other's opinions.

    Trust me, I still have one character I pair with an official show's character. But I do it in seclusion best I can as not to make myself look like a fool. ///


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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by Becca D on Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:46 pm

    When you think about it it's still as untenable as any other pairing involving fictitious characters. Only difference is that Vocaloids have no official, set personality, just popular opinion. If I wanted to I could say Miku was a pissy diva and Luka was a mass murderer, and no one could really prove me wrong. So, I guess in the end it really doesn't matter o 3 o I kinda lost the direction of this post. However I don't support VxU because you can make UxU pairings canon (as I have one, the creator of the other UTAU supports the pairing too, but that doesn't mean they can't sing love songs w/other UTAUs), but anyone could claim to be dating Miku or Gumi or Gackupo, so it's pretty meaningless to support any pairing like that.

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by scarfu on Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:55 pm

    OK well I won't lie, I don't think postively of them at all. XD; Generally when I see UTAU that are paired with UTAU I can't take them seriously at all. orz It feels like the only reason they made their UTAU was to pair them with that Vocaloid...

    However, I don't think that's any reason to attack anyone. XD If the subject comes up, I will give my opinion, but don't go LOL U TEH SUCK for no reason you know? XD

    EDIT: UTAU THAT ARE PAIRED WITH UTAU. XD TYPO OF THE YEAR. *Vocaloids


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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by R.K. on Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:55 pm

    I honestly say let them do whatever they want and let the public react upon it. I wouldn't discourage it since limiting what an UTAU should do will decrease its appeal, y'know? xD It's all embellishment... ridiculous or not... some people like that stuff, some people don't. I mean, I for one don't care. xDD
    When it's obsessive/possessive and stuff? No worries, mate. It's all for fun and laughs then. It becomes more of a mockery than this sin we can all sort of cast dislike towards. o3o;
    I dunno. I'm dumb.

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by KaneYuki on Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:12 pm

    VocaloidxUTAU is not MY cup of tea, but I don't usually mind when someone does it, unless they take it too far to the point of THREATENING OTHER USERS

    YES I have(kinda) been threatened. It was a while back, but the girl started talking about how she vv@$ g@nn@ #@c|< my @ccun7.
    In that kind of text. I had to get a friend to translate for me.

    personal views:
    Personaly I support RinxGuakpo and KaitoxLen
    And I hate LenxRin, but I LOVE certain LenxRin songs, and I have HATED certain KaitoxLen songs, its a matter of "does it sound nice, and are the lyrics nice?"
    (I adore nukolenlen the most though, but that's KaitoxLen)
    Bottom line, As long as you treat other pairings and people who support those pairings with respect, I have no problem. And use good grammar.

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by hello8bit on Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:17 pm

    @KaneYuki: RinxGakupo? Never heard that one before. I love Gakupo because he is just so fabulous~ But really, Vocaloid pairings to me are always odd I don't know why. umu I prefer UTATxUTAU pairings. non/

    @scarfu: Yeah makes sense. non/

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by Ezri on Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:19 pm

    I don't really mind it. ouo To be honest, the whole "it'll never be canon" thing confuses me. XD I mean, so what? Has canon really EVER mattered within a fandom?

    Is AkuRoku canon? No. Will it ever be canon? No. Do people still pair Axel and Roxas and support it like crazy?
    HECK YES THEY DO, AND RELENTLESSLY.

    It's all a fandom, after all. =w= As long as no one claims anything to be canon, it's all good with me.

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by Trempush on Mon Oct 18, 2010 9:53 pm

    I really don't mind. Even with the "They're mine" thing that people do sometimes, they're just characters. It's like when people get posessive over the Axel/Roxas pairing from Kingdom Hearts and can't bear to see them paired with anyone else. We all know (I hope) that we're just being fans of a set of programs we enjoy using, and we're showing it in our own ways. In the end, they're just characters and everyone can move on, coexist on the internet and be fine. Right?

    Also, years of reading/writing fanfiction have led me to the conclusion that those that truly take pairings personally and end up picking fights with others (serious fights with direct threats to other users) aren't actually fighting over the characters. They've got something else going on (temporary or permanent) that leads them to act completely psycho. So is it really fair to take these people and project that mentality out on everyone who pairs a Vocaloid with an UTAU?

    just my two cents.

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by Misha on Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:28 pm

    For me it depends on how far a person takes it. If they revolve their utaus LIVES around the Vocaloid, then lolno.
    If its really just a joke with like one or two arts for it, then hell, why not.

    But yeah, if my first impression of your Utau is with a Vocaloid, then yes I will be judging you.


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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by taiwonton on Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:43 pm

    I agree with Misha. I hate to say it, but I just can't take those kinds of UTAU seriously...

    But I guess it also depends on how the user acts about it. If they try to shove it up in everyone's faces, then it's not really just an issue about the UTAUxVocaloid though, so that'd be off-topic.

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by mystsaphyr on Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:50 am

    I voice-ship Aiko with Iroha.

    I ship Aiko with Mathieu.

    IMO, this is the biggest difference.

    If I can enjoy an UTAU voice with a Vocaloid voice, i.e. Nami and Rin, then I can voice-ship them.

    But I stay away from actual shipping.

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by ThePianoChan on Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:54 am

    ^ I sort of agree with that.
    I don't agree with "OMG COUPLE"
    but if you can do a shipping via voice coupling, that's fine.

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by Aline on Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:07 am

    I don't mind if it's for a song or a crack pairing (LOL, Aline's hair x Gakupo, don't ask, old joke is old). I don't mind even if it's just for fanservice (like all those Ted x Kaito or Miku x Teto pics out there).

    My concern is about canonicity. I'm pretty sure Luna never stated Luna x Len as canon, at least not that I know (and if she did, it was as an one-sided crush from Luna, I can go with that). But I know some fangirls who state UTAU/Vocaloid fancharacter x Vocaloid pairings as canon, without having any idea about what canon means. If your UTAUloid is being paired with a Vocaloid, even if it has thoudsands of supporters (there we go on Ted x Kaito again), it's fanon at best, because no Vocaloids have canon pairings (the nearest would be Sweet Ann and Big Al, what with that whole Bride of Frankenstein/Frankenstein Monster theme, but PowerFX never specified nor confirmed that they're a couple per se, so, it keeps itself on fanon).

    Heck, even I pair Aline/Allen and Gakupo sometimes (well, 15yo Allen) for kicks and giggles. I also would love to make Kasui and Big Al interact in a bromance full of dubious undertones, but I'd never say it's canon (specially not the second situation, because ohai, Kasui is Scarfu's, not mine). So, guys, keep it cool, keep it for fun. <3

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by Hecate on Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:27 am

    I don't care.
    I don't pair up my UTAU's,because 1.loltheyrestillwip and 2.i don't plan to give out half of the information,for an example gender,age,height,weight,personality etc. But that's my choice.
    Other than that,there are some UTAUxVOCALOID pairings I love.Like GakupoxRitsu or Miki Sf-A2xKasane Ted.

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by 캉다님(KANGDANIM) on Tue Oct 19, 2010 12:17 pm

    I don't care about duets, but Couple or some other relationship? Um...:C
    I can respect them, but for me myself I don't enjoy making relationship with UTAUs. Not just about UTAU x VOCALOID, but also UTAU x UTAU.

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by Catgirl on Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:45 pm

    If it's something you support because you think they sound good together, or even if you just like how the designs look together, I'm ok with it... as long as you don't try to convince everyone it's official and go around biting everyone that tries to pair the Vocaloid with someone else XD; That's just plain dumb.

    I'm not too fond of UTAUxUTAU and VocaloidxVocaloid shippings as well, actually. It's not that there aren't pairings that I favor, it's just that I think each song is a story on its own, and if the story requires characters in a certain way, and the work is good, it's perfectly fine even if the pairings don't match my special preferences... ò_ò They're singing softwares, as long as they sound good, I really don't care who they're paired with.
    And about UTAUxUTAU, it's a personal thing, so it's the UTAU's maker's choice that must be respected, but PERSONALLY, I don't really like it. :/

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by Catarsis on Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:45 pm

    I don't really like UTAUxVocaloid pairings that are like "ZOMG CANON OTP!!"!"1"!"" and unripe doo-doo covered banana like that.
    But I love UTAUxVocaloid singing duets <3

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    Re: Pairing your UTAU with a VOCALOID.

    Post by Zeny on Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:58 pm



    "AND WHY DO YOU CLAIM TO BE MY GIRLFRIEND?!"

    Just about sums up my opinion on it, really.

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