What is VCV??

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    What is VCV??

    Post by Cepom on Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:45 pm

    As you've seen on the title, what is actually a VCV? Is it diferent from normal VB? I've saw and read about people talking about VCV, but I couldn't find the definition of it.

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    Re: What is VCV??

    Post by Luna on Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:52 pm

    Halo should have the best answer on this, but a regular voicebank is considered 'CV' meaning 'Consonant Vowel' bank.
    it has the usual sounds like 'ka' 'ru' 'ga' etc.
    'VCV' stands for 'Vowel Consonat Vowel'
    Its a kind of triphonic bank. |D
    Its a series of recorded sounds like 'a ga za da ba'
    so you can get
    'a ga'
    'a za'
    'a da'
    'a ba'
    its a vowel, consonant, then vowel (H)

    I suck at definitions, but thats how I undertsand it. xD

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    Re: What is VCV??

    Post by Cepom on Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:49 am

    Luna wrote:Halo should have the best answer on this, but a regular voicebank is considered 'CV' meaning 'Consonant Vowel' bank.
    it has the usual sounds like 'ka' 'ru' 'ga' etc.
    'VCV' stands for 'Vowel Consonat Vowel'
    Its a kind of triphonic bank. |D
    Its a series of recorded sounds like 'a ga za da ba'
    so you can get
    'a ga'
    'a za'
    'a da'
    'a ba'
    its a vowel, consonant, then vowel (H)

    I suck at definitions, but thats how I undertsand it. xD

    O~k... In short, VCV is using words like 'a i ru'(air) instead normal hiragana - katakana words.. Am I wrong??

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    Re: What is VCV??

    Post by Haloheroine on Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:43 am

    Um...
    Not quite XD

    VCV is used to make UTAUloids sound smoother.
    Howso?

    Well, instead of the sudden change of "a" to "i" in a UST, you have "a" in one note, then "a i" in the next.
    The "a i"'s oto file (the recording being aaiauea) would have the end of the "a" and the full "i" note in it.

    Do you see how this works? It blends the notes and make's them smoother and more realistic.

    So, Toeto, with a full VCV Voice Bank would look like this:
    "- a/a na/a ta/a no/o ko/o to/o ga"
    ^^

    Examples of a good VCV Voice Bank are Shirakane Hiyori, Namine Ritsu and Suiga Sora.

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    Re: What is VCV??

    Post by Cepom on Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:56 am

    Haloheroine wrote:Um...
    Not quite XD

    VCV is used to make UTAUloids sound smoother.
    Howso?

    Well, instead of the sudden change of "a" to "i" in a UST, you have "a" in one note, then "a i" in the next.
    The "a i"'s oto file (the recording being aaiauea) would have the end of the "a" and the full "i" note in it.

    Do you see how this works? It blends the notes and make's them smoother and more realistic.

    So, Toeto, with a full VCV Voice Bank would look like this:
    "- a/a na/a ta/a no/o ko/o to/o ga"
    ^^

    Examples of a good VCV Voice Bank are Shirakane Hiyori, Namine Ritsu and Suiga Sora.

    Hmm, I get the point.. But can you give me some mp3 voice / song, so that I can hear the difference.. Sorry to bother..

    ......... Waiiit... I've recently watch Kasane Teto and her *NEW* voice, singing Packaged and Stargazer.. Does that mean her voice is VCV??

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    Re: What is VCV??

    Post by Zeny on Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:41 pm

    Cepom wrote:
    Haloheroine wrote:Um...
    Not quite XD

    VCV is used to make UTAUloids sound smoother.
    Howso?

    Well, instead of the sudden change of "a" to "i" in a UST, you have "a" in one note, then "a i" in the next.
    The "a i"'s oto file (the recording being aaiauea) would have the end of the "a" and the full "i" note in it.

    Do you see how this works? It blends the notes and make's them smoother and more realistic.

    So, Toeto, with a full VCV Voice Bank would look like this:
    "- a/a na/a ta/a no/o ko/o to/o ga"
    ^^

    Examples of a good VCV Voice Bank are Shirakane Hiyori, Namine Ritsu and Suiga Sora.

    Hmm, I get the point.. But can you give me some mp3 voice / song, so that I can hear the difference.. Sorry to bother..

    ......... Waiiit... I've recently watch Kasane Teto and her *NEW* voice, singing Packaged and Stargazer.. Does that mean her voice is VCV??

    Yes.

    Here's another amazing example of VCV:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNlLD097AfY

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    Re: What is VCV??

    Post by Cepom on Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:58 pm

    A cat... is singing??

    Forget that.. I've recently read other member's post.. I think I understand a little bit about VCV...

    I don't want to put it long, so I make it short...

    e.g.

    Word --> Irrigation

    When put in UTAU --> 'I' 'ri' 'ge' 'sho' 'n' (in Japanese accent)

    But, to make the 'Irr' sound like there's double 'r', make a VCV --> 'Ir'


    I don't know if I've understand it right... Or... like, instead of putting 'i' and 'ma' separately, make it fused together.. 'i ma'...

    Uuuu....

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    Re: What is VCV??

    Post by Haloheroine on Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:07 pm

    Not quite XD
    You take the vowel from the previous syllable.

    So;
    "i" "ri" "ge" "i" "sho" "n"
    turns into;
    "i" "i ri" "i ge" "e i" "i sho" "o n"

    So you still have the same amount of notes, just you put the vowel from the previous note and a space onto the front of note.

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    Re: What is VCV??

    Post by Cepom on Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:18 pm

    Haloheroine wrote:Not quite XD
    You take the vowel from the previous syllable.

    So;
    "i" "ri" "ge" "i" "sho" "n"
    turns into;
    "i" "i ri" "i ge" "e i" "i sho" "o n"

    So you still have the same amount of notes, just you put the vowel from the previous note and a space onto the front of note.

    Oh I get it... like: Wait

    'We' 'i' 'to'

    but for VCV:

    'We' 'ei' ' i to'

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    Re: What is VCV??

    Post by Haloheroine on Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:20 pm

    Yep! Thats it ^^

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    Re: What is VCV??

    Post by Cepom on Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:26 pm

    Yaay... got 5/100 marks for lag thinking...

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