Trying voices for a new UTAUloid aaaaaaaaaaaahhhh

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    Trying voices for a new UTAUloid aaaaaaaaaaaahhhh

    Post by rokurin on Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:31 am

    I want to start making a voice for a certain character that's the mascot of a site, but I don't know what voice to choose. Both me and a friend [Mitzuke] recorded the first sample and I need your advice on which one to stick with. Also, ideas on how to improve the quality of the voice are welcomed C:

    First one: http://www.4shared.com/audio/i3A7sRvV/FFFFvershiva.html
    Second: http://www.4shared.com/audio/iWxjHkjJ/FFFF.html

    I'llneedanewmicrophonefffff

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    Post by smeen on Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:42 am

    They sound almost the same, the second demo has more clarity though...

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    Post by Mayuen on Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:51 am

    I like the second one more :3

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    Re: Trying voices for a new UTAUloid aaaaaaaaaaaahhhh

    Post by irei1as on Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:25 am

    The second sounds more human and clear but, are you looking for that with your mascot?


    These are the tips I read around these forums of how to improve a recording that I can remember:

    -MOST IMPORTANT: Do the oto after the voicebank is done. The best voicebank of the world is going to sound very bad if the oto is badly done.

    -Wrap a tissue, kleenex, etc around your mic if you breath too strong to it. Don't eat the mic, farther of the mic may end being better quality. Just test different settings.

    -Don't use OREMO except for soft voice. It seems OREMO hits a bit the quality (but I hadn't made an official test, yet, so I'm not sure).
    You can use other programs like Audacity, Reaper, etc.
    Also, I know Audacity has a "Noice Removal" tool. If your mic has high static noise you'll need that.

    -Use monaural with 44.1 kHz. Monaural is needed. Not sure if going to the super 48kHz or even the omgpainsize 96KHz quality is going to help much the quality or if they even work with UTAU. But don't try the lower 22050 Hz except if you want a radio sounding UTAU.

    -Try to record all the samples with the same pitch (with exceptions like breath sounds). That way the range is more global (for example imagine you sing "a" in C3 and "e" in C4, then you can't do it right over C4 because "a" is too low, neither under C3 because "e" is too high).
    Using a similar volume may help but I'm not sure if just with a clear enough volume is enough.

    -Try to record each sample with a constant pitch. Things like AaAaaaA are not easy for UTAU to handle.

    -With longer samples the longest notes will sound more natural. But I think to record each sample with a constant pitch is more important so don't them too long that your voice starts to vibrate.

    -Record your voicebank under a blanket to avoid external noise and echo. It seems to work really well. The best option is to use a professional isolation booth if you have one!

    -After doing the voicebank, and the oto, check if each note sounds ok within a melody, low/high notes, short/long sounds, etc. If you hear an imperfection, like a click noise or breathed too strong onto the mic, just record that sample again. Normal people can't make it the 1st try perfectly.
    This process can be made the same time you're recording the samples, of course.

    -Take it easy. Don't try to record all the samples too fast or your voice can break.

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    Re: Trying voices for a new UTAUloid aaaaaaaaaaaahhhh

    Post by Catgirl on Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:57 am

    Yep, the second is more natural sounding. Smile

    irei1as wrote:Also, I know Audacity has a "Noice Removal" tool. If your mic has high static noise you'll need that.
    I second this, but noise filter might dull the voice a little, though... so be careful about its strength.
    In addition, if you feel the sound is dull, after removing noise, I suggest you to play around with the equalizer and try rising some high frequencies (over 4000/5000KHz) to bring back some of the natural voice tone... you need to experiment for a while to know which frequencies are right for you, and when dealing with "s", "k", and other high frequency consonants, select only the vowel part or it will go all SSSSSSS, K will get super strong, etc XD;
    I think it's worth mentioning as I never saw this tip around... I dug this up from my knowledges in Signal Theory (I followed a couple of courses about it at University). I used it on my samples and I think it improved a lot the sound quality, especially considering that I have a unripe doo-doo covered banana microphone.


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    Re: Trying voices for a new UTAUloid aaaaaaaaaaaahhhh

    Post by rokurin on Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:08 am

    The character is supposed to be a fox/cat shota, I don't even know exactly [and I drew him wth].

    Ilu guys, thanks for the tips! The first one is recorded by me and the second by Mitzuke, and I can tell I have to get a better microphone. Therefore, Mitzuke shall voice the utauloid since her mike sucks less than mine fffff

    *will so try the blanket idea*

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    Re: Trying voices for a new UTAUloid aaaaaaaaaaaahhhh

    Post by Darkkira1332 on Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:25 am

    Nice I like the 2nd one!

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    Post by rokurin on Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:37 am

    Mitzuke didn't get to record the rest of the samples, while I was bored out of my sanity, therefore some recordings were born out of my voice D: I checked with the users of the forum this mascot is for and they're bitching about the voice not being manly enough. He's 12-13 yo, for God's sake, wth. How manly do you want a shota to be?!

    But the majority rules so I lowered the pitch and edited some Gflags and whatnot. How does it sound as an Utauloid?

    -the non-genderbended version: http://www.4shared.com/audio/hAAR-ohQ/shivaver.html
    -low: http://www.4shared.com/audio/DD3LbP1k/bre20g6.html
    -lower: http://www.4shared.com/audio/lIcUYVh3/bre50g18.html
    -lowest: http://www.4shared.com/audio/bh62R5zv/bre60g25.html

    Please note that I didn't record any samples for n and ji yet, so I replaced them in the ust with nu and shi. Oh boy, I rock.

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    Post by rokurin on Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:16 pm

    D':

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