Overseas Utaforum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

+7
Crossfrown
missingpixiesticks
kisekixkoe
MariRoseTair
Fumfum
LupinAKAFlashTH2
annamaeblythe
11 posters

    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    annamaeblythe
    annamaeblythe
    Moderator


    Posts : 146
    Notes : 434
    Reputation : -37
    Join date : 2010-01-08

    UTAU Information
    UTAUloid or Project: BLYTHE Anaka
    Blog/Website:
    Status: Triphone Ver - Beta: Posted

    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user: Empty Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by annamaeblythe Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:07 pm

    This was in an email I received today-

    I might offend you.

    Because of anonymity, we feel free to post comments.
    Without thinking of the author. Anon can be good or bad.
    So... If you mind, I would suggest you not to post videos on nico.
    Someone could insult vid. (no matter how great it is)
    Nico is not just friendly.

    -Ebi Senbei, the maker of Okiamiuta Ebi's Love is War -snow mix-.
    LupinAKAFlashTH2
    LupinAKAFlashTH2


    Posts : 1353
    Notes : 3737
    Reputation : 92
    Join date : 2010-01-18
    Age : 29
    Location : TEH PROGRAMMING ROOM D:

    UTAU Information
    UTAUloid or Project: Project CX-Loid (Crossloid)
    Blog/Website: www.crossloids.webs.com
    Status: ACT 1 of Kenji Baionoto released at website above, constantly being updated

    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user: Empty Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by LupinAKAFlashTH2 Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:53 pm

    annamaeblythe wrote:This was in an email I received today-

    I might offend you.

    Because of anonymity, we feel free to post comments.
    Without thinking of the author. Anon can be good or bad.
    So... If you mind, I would suggest you not to post videos on nico.
    Someone could insult vid. (no matter how great it is)
    Nico is not just friendly.

    -Ebi Senbei, the maker of Okiamiuta Ebi's Love is War -snow mix-.
    ...Woow.
    Um.
    The creator of the LiW-SM- sent that to you? (Fail acronym is very fail)
    Ummmmm.
    Are you offended?
    Was this originally in Japanese? (Or is this bad english?)
    And this is why I'm scared of Nico Nico Douga. (Though I love it soooo much)
    Fumfum
    Fumfum


    Posts : 262
    Notes : 498
    Reputation : 11
    Join date : 2010-02-08
    Age : 31
    Location : In een doos onder een brug

    UTAU Information
    UTAUloid or Project: Raiu Yagi
    Blog/Website: www.youtube.com/user/fullmetalfumfum
    Status: Hmm, I might redo Yagi's act 3...

    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user: Empty Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by Fumfum Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:07 pm

    Why can't we upload? Because we are oveseas? Nico is in German too. And I don't believe Japanese people always have better UTAUs. Why is some failloid allowed to post on YT, but not on Nico? Some people do even talk about "not nico-worthy songs/videos/UTAU/" Just wtf. That sounds to me like "oh, Youtube is just for noob users"
    I think Nico is for uploading, whoever you are. Even you have a failloid.
    (excuse me for my poor English)
    annamaeblythe
    annamaeblythe
    Moderator


    Posts : 146
    Notes : 434
    Reputation : -37
    Join date : 2010-01-08

    UTAU Information
    UTAUloid or Project: BLYTHE Anaka
    Blog/Website:
    Status: Triphone Ver - Beta: Posted

    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user: Empty Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by annamaeblythe Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:00 pm

    Ebi and I have been talking to each other for quite some time over email. They have pretty good English, to be honest.
    MariRoseTair
    MariRoseTair


    Posts : 130
    Notes : 409
    Reputation : 11
    Join date : 2010-01-09
    Age : 35
    Location : A tiny little island next to the Uk

    UTAU Information
    UTAUloid or Project: Siana Shion
    Blog/Website:
    Status: Looking for the right VCV reclist... @_@

    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user: Empty Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by MariRoseTair Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:50 pm

    Fumfum wrote:Why can't we upload? Because we are oveseas? Nico is in German too. And I don't believe Japanese people always have better UTAUs. Why is some failloid allowed to post on YT, but not on Nico? Some people do even talk about "not nico-worthy songs/videos/UTAU/" Just wtf. That sounds to me like "oh, Youtube is just for noob users"
    I think Nico is for uploading, whoever you are. Even you have a failloid.
    (excuse me for my poor English)

    They said that because Nico is a whole lot different then Youtube, Because Nico and the Japanese nico-chus are a different community.

    It's not for those who are much more softer skinned.

    and to be honest I'm agreeing.. but in a different way.
    Most of us here.. don't speak Japanese so whatever the Nico-chus can offer us would be useless... because well... would we even understand it?

    Youtube isn't just for failoids, it's for westren users to get comments and constructive crit.

    However... some people seem to forget that and would rather spam Nico Nico Douga. =./
    avatar
    kisekixkoe


    Posts : 146
    Notes : 287
    Reputation : 2
    Join date : 2010-01-27
    Age : 21
    Location : Illinois

    UTAU Information
    UTAUloid or Project:
    Blog/Website:
    Status:

    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user: Empty Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by kisekixkoe Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:00 pm

    annamaeblythe wrote:Ebi and I have been talking to each other for quite some time over email. They have pretty good English, to be honest.

    ^This is true,
    I have SOME family in japan, who i converse to via email and skype, and they have perfectly fine english,
    I mean, most of them learn it in secondary school (high school) and most dont have heavy accents (a good exmaple of this is kanipan) of course there are those who do.

    BUt other then that, yes, unless you have some AMAZING PV like:
    Spoiler:

    ..Then honestly dont try
    unless if they have a server in your language, like femmeh uploading and anyother dutch users and spanish and
    ahny germanic languages or romantic languages (ys i used the right term) then honestly, the only reason you should have a nnd account is to watch videos, of course, unless you speak decent japanese , liike, Yoru or (Mianaito?)
    I know like very little japanese (some BASIC kanji + like 2/3 of hiragana and 1/4 of katakana ) and normal statements like "Good work" and thats it, so I honestly am not good enough to u[load to NND.
    LupinAKAFlashTH2
    LupinAKAFlashTH2


    Posts : 1353
    Notes : 3737
    Reputation : 92
    Join date : 2010-01-18
    Age : 29
    Location : TEH PROGRAMMING ROOM D:

    UTAU Information
    UTAUloid or Project: Project CX-Loid (Crossloid)
    Blog/Website: www.crossloids.webs.com
    Status: ACT 1 of Kenji Baionoto released at website above, constantly being updated

    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user: Empty Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by LupinAKAFlashTH2 Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:05 pm

    kisekixkoe wrote:
    annamaeblythe wrote:Ebi and I have been talking to each other for quite some time over email. They have pretty good English, to be honest.

    ^This is true,
    I have SOME family in japan, who i converse to via email and skype, and they have perfectly fine english,
    I mean, most of them learn it in secondary school (high school) and most dont have heavy accents (a good exmaple of this is kanipan) of course there are those who do.

    BUt other then that, yes, unless you have some AMAZING PV like:
    Spoiler:

    ..Then honestly dont try
    unless if they have a server in your language, like femmeh uploading and anyother dutch users and spanish and
    ahny germanic languages or romantic languages (ys i used the right term) then honestly, the only reason you should have a nnd account is to watch videos, of course, unless you speak decent japanese , liike, Yoru or (Mianaito?)
    I know like very little japanese (some BASIC kanji + like 2/3 of hiragana and 1/4 of katakana ) and normal statements like "Good work" and thats it, so I honestly am not good enough to u[load to NND.

    ....You're right.
    Even when I'm able to access Nico, all I see are PVs.... really good ones too.
    I know I'm a good artist, but not good enough to make a PV for Nico.
    missingpixiesticks
    missingpixiesticks


    Posts : 60
    Notes : 98
    Reputation : 0
    Join date : 2010-01-22
    Age : 32
    Location : England

    UTAU Information
    UTAUloid or Project: Clare Ricewind
    Blog/Website:
    Status: Still needs to record her Jap voicebank

    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user: Empty Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by missingpixiesticks Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:45 pm

    I would never upload anything to Nico, even if I thought it was good enough. (not that everything on Nico is a good as you guys seem to be making it out to be ¬__¬ There appears to be an opinion on here that it's some sort of website for amazing stuff. It's not, you just browse over the crap.)

    Anyway back to my point ... it's because I wouldn't be able to string a sentence together long enough to even pretend I could speak japanese. Think about it, if you were on a website that was only in english, and someone came on and started speaking a different language that you couldn't understand, wouldn't you be annoyed. Especially if they were trying to speak your language without actually being able to, (thus, what most overseas utauloids do) and so got sentences that just didn't make any sense.

    Now, add your irritants with anon, and what do you get. Freedom to say what you think about the situation.

    I wouldn't take that as an insult. It's more a complement. It means that they think that your stuff is good enough, but don't want you to get disheartened by what others might say.
    Crossfrown
    Crossfrown


    Posts : 241
    Notes : 994
    Reputation : 16
    Join date : 2010-03-04

    UTAU Information
    UTAUloid or Project: Crossfrown
    Blog/Website: http://crossfrown.blog126.fc2.com/
    Status: Complete

    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user: Empty Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by Crossfrown Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:32 pm

    Okay. Okay everyone listen.

    Nicovideo and 2CH are basically 4chan.

    You know the third in Kagamine Len's benzene series? That was dedicated to nico trolls and his hate for people better than him.

    There's nothing preventing you from uploading works as long as they aren't bad. Yes, you might get trolled by anon, but you could also pick up a following and have Japanese users become aware of you.

    HATERS GONNA HATE. If you can't deal, it's your own problem.
    xLei
    xLei


    Posts : 868
    Notes : 2109
    Reputation : 22
    Join date : 2010-01-12
    Age : 33
    Location : Ted Kasane's Bedroom ;D

    UTAU Information
    UTAUloid or Project: OS Models & MS Models
    Blog/Website: http://project-vista.blogspot.com
    Status: Vista: ACT 2 BETA; Mahoune Emi: OTOs being done by Arissa

    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user: Empty Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by xLei Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:10 am

    Crossfrown wrote:HATERS GONNA HATE. If you can't deal, it's your own problem.

    ^ This.

    *doesn't really have anything more to say*
    melonramune
    melonramune


    Posts : 21
    Notes : 150
    Reputation : 1
    Join date : 2010-02-07
    Age : 28
    Location : USA

    UTAU Information
    UTAUloid or Project:
    Blog/Website: kitty-blogs.blogspot.com
    Status: WIP

    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user: Empty Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by melonramune Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:05 am

    annamaeblythe wrote:This was in an email I received today-

    I might offend you.

    Because of anonymity, we feel free to post comments.
    Without thinking of the author. Anon can be good or bad.
    So... If you mind, I would suggest you not to post videos on nico.
    Someone could insult vid. (no matter how great it is)
    Nico is not just friendly.

    -Ebi Senbei, the maker of Okiamiuta Ebi's Love is War -snow mix-.

    I get what he means Oo' Like here:
    http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9576051
    The Nico-users got pretty ticked off at me because they think Hana looks like Miku, sounds like Luka, and overall a total VOCALOID rip-off [atleast that's what my level of Japanese tells me]

    I don't think he's saying "oversea UTAU programmers get off nnd", but rather warning us that there're racist people on nnd and it's best to stick with people of our own language so we can "avenge" ourselves Laughing
    Crossfrown
    Crossfrown


    Posts : 241
    Notes : 994
    Reputation : 16
    Join date : 2010-03-04

    UTAU Information
    UTAUloid or Project: Crossfrown
    Blog/Website: http://crossfrown.blog126.fc2.com/
    Status: Complete

    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user: Empty Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by Crossfrown Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:45 pm

    I highly doubt Nico would insult your UTAU for sounding like a Vocaloid, especially since she sounds nothing like Luka. Misread "Ruko"? (Ruka/Ruko)

    Maybe the art. The anatomy is several levels of "WHAT AM I LOOKING AT".

    But yeah if there's something wrong there is no such thing as polite with anon.
    I got a "this is shit" once. Nothing else. They were even considerate enough to put it in romaji so I could read it.
    smeen
    smeen


    Posts : 3113
    Notes : 7719
    Reputation : 96
    Join date : 2010-03-13
    Age : 33
    Location : Yuugi-Slavia

    UTAU Information
    UTAUloid or Project: Yuugi Hakune/Nubia
    Blog/Website: http://utauonline.com/yuugi/
    Status: Yuugi: Act 2 Released/Nubia: CV/VC Recorded

    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user: Empty Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by smeen Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:38 am

    It's quite nice for him to say this. I know people who get insulted by something that wasn't even ment to be insulting so if you can't take such things don't post there. (Also, if you can't take such things don't post on YouTube but that's totally my own opinion.)

    But I don't think you have to look at the art. I can give you perfect examples of videos on Nico with bad art.
    Catarsis
    Catarsis


    Posts : 802
    Notes : 1916
    Reputation : 17
    Join date : 2010-01-16
    Age : 83

    UTAU Information
    UTAUloid or Project:
    Blog/Website:
    Status: Katarina Sokkyoune NÜ available for download.

    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user: Empty Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by Catarsis Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:36 pm

    smeen wrote:It's quite nice for him to say this. I know people who get insulted by something that wasn't even ment to be insulting so if you can't take such things don't post there. (Also, if you can't take such things don't post on YouTube but that's totally my own opinion.)

    But I don't think you have to look at the art. I can give you perfect examples of videos on Nico with bad art.

    ^ THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS. 8'D

    Sponsored content


    Advice from a Japanese UTAU user: Empty Re: Advice from a Japanese UTAU user:

    Post by Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Fri Nov 15, 2024 11:55 am