The Essential UTAU Toolkit - Romaji/Hiragana UST and voicebank conversion/aliasing

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    Post by Darkkira1332 on Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:37 pm

    No problem! I'm still working on another Utauloid(for which it doesn't have an Oto.ini) and the Aliaser work.


    I'll check for more errors. And report it immediately to you. ^_^
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    Post by toxic_fox on Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:04 pm

    That is EXACTLY what I did, step for step. It did not work.
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    Post by Guest on Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:27 pm

    I need your OS and bit number (32 or 64). This is odd; it works with all the other people (in the end).
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    Post by Darkkira1332 on Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:23 pm

    I found another error about "ri". It uses a different japanese writing.
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    Post by Guest on Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:26 pm

    There are two ways to write "ri", so I picked that one.
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    Post by Darkkira1332 on Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:28 pm

    oh.....so thats why.(I can't read japanese XP)
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    Post by Noteloid on Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:26 am

    Aster Selene wrote:In my experience with UTAU it cannot process Unicode (hence why my Korean bank had to be in romaja).
    Yeah,I tried to make an aliased oto.ini with Unicode.
    But I meant the whole Unicode thing to remove mojibake from the filenames.Then conversion much be easier without the gibberish!
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    Post by Guest on Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:48 am

    The text strings used to execute search-and-replace require one coding per file, so you can't have Unicode and ANSI simultaneously.
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    Post by Noteloid on Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:59 am

    I meant that if encounters the kana,it'll be renamed to the Unicode equalment,to avoid mojibake.Or if the program cannot handle two codetables,make it to romanji renaming.
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    Post by Guest on Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:12 pm

    Exactly, it can only process either ANSI or Unicode, not both.

    I'll try to study compressor format. Which format is it most common in, .zip?
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    Post by Noteloid on Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:22 pm

    Um,ANSI?
    Because WinZip always make mojibake.
    But I prefer Shift JIS.So,Unicode transrcipting will didn't work,but a romanji converter plugin for the compressor programs(WinZip or 7Zip)
    is another nice method to prevent mojibake.It can handle ANSI(and every codesets) because is converts あ to a.Try to make it!
    OFF:7Zip can handle hiragana correctly on a romanji computer?
    ON:If it(7Z) does nothing to mojibake,this plugin might be the help of the romanji users.
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    Post by Guest on Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:23 pm

    ...now I'm confused.
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    Post by Noteloid on Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:30 pm

    WinZip fusses up the hiragana voicebanks.And that's the reason to some users needs fanconverts.And some VBs cannot be fanconvertable due to redistribution issues.But a hiragana to romanji plugin can fix this conversion problem,so users don't need to convert it manually.
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    Post by Guest on Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:31 pm

    Right so I'm trying to figure out:
    Which format does it most occur in? .zip? .7z?

    And yeah, I've never had problems with 7-Zip; however, I run Japanese locale.
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    Post by Noteloid on Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:33 pm

    The .zip format.
    And 7Z can handle kana on foreign non-Unicode or locale settings?
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    Post by Guest on Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:35 pm

    I haven't tried that yet.
    However I think that foreign/non-Unicode settings will show mojibake filenames no matter what.

    The way the UST converter works though makes it able to work with mojibake filenames.
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    Post by irei1as on Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:44 pm

    With Spanish locale the last version of 7z unzipped correctly a voicebank in hiragana (just downloaded and installed it and tested it with Tony Yonné). (I LOVE IT, no more AppLocale izarc -_-)
    But take in count I do have the pack for Japanese from my Windows XP CD. I'm almost sure people without that compability installed is going to have by default mojibake.

    EDIT: Pft, 7zip fails for Mr.Munou ust pack and I still need for it Japanese locale or Applocale, bah.
    Sorry for the wrong info.
    I guess Tony Yonné is in UNICODE while that ust pack is in ANSII from a Japanese locale.
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    Post by Noteloid on Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:58 am

    What?7Z isn't the best solution.
    Another reason for the mojibake remover(or romanji converter).
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    Post by Guest on Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:28 am

    I'm going to run some tests and see if it works.
    This is going to be very difficult.
    If it turns out I have to physically type in the mojibake instead of searching for the hiragana, I'm not going to do it. That's just too difficult for me.

    If you want to try, open "hiratoroma.txt", use search-and-replace to remove all instances of "Lyric=", and save it as something else (same location); save a bat file in the same location as the new text file with "java TextRep (name of zip file here) hiratoroma.txt". I'm going to try it, but I'm going to encounter quite a few wallbangers, I know.
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    Post by toxic_fox on Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:40 am

    I am using Windows 7, 64 Bit operating system. Does that help...? I have my system set to Japanese Locale.
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    Post by Guest on Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:10 pm

    I'm going to look up Java commands in 7 and see if they're any different...
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    Post by Noteloid on Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:34 pm

    Aster Selene wrote:I'm going to run some tests and see if it works.
    This is going to be very difficult.
    If it turns out I have to physically type in the mojibake instead of searching for the hiragana, I'm not going to do it. That's just too difficult for me.
    I meant a mojibake remover.You said manual converting.
    I tried to do it,but is very annoying,because WinZip mojibake-fied some sounds and frqs under the same name.
    So,I got an installer CD,and installed the compatibility.
    But some people don't have the CD...so they're need a mojibake-free self extractor.When I installed UTAU on my computer,Defoko had mojibake,but she had all of her sounds without overwriting.I switched the font type to Arial Unicode.And I saw the kana in Defoko's VB.
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    Post by Guest on Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:58 pm

    Right, but to make the converter you need to give input/output values. If it makes me type in physical mojibake, I can't do it.
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    Post by Noteloid on Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:25 pm

    Input(aka.previous file name):hiragana
    Output:romanji
    And this is a plugin for the compressor,it prevents mojibake renaming.
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    Post by Guest on Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:27 pm

    Okay, I need a guinea pig.
    Someone without Japanese locale or compatibility.

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